Thee Jazz Fan
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Yes you do, you still have to put in the trade I pm’ed you, the one you said I didn’t need to send you.
UPDATED: 2021 All-Time NBA Draft
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Thee Jazz Fan
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Yes and the other plays elite offense and the other does not, before you get your panties all in a wad, I’m not saying Duncan is a bad offensive player but as far as elite Centers go his offense is maybe slightly above average for an Allstar center. Yes, he played center for most of his career and mostly played pf because of David Robinson. Lick Duncan Curry led his team to the greatest record in the history of the game and to chips just like Duncan. He’s every bit as elite as Duncan, just went about it in his own unique way. Idiot!!
Thee Jazz Fan
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There’s so many players I want to pick who should be gone long before now but can’t because of the era rule that was implemented I like the rule, but it’s damned frustrating. Lol
Thee Jazz Fan
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Haha, I started a writeup then realized I couldn’t pick him
Miggs
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Jesus ****ing Christ. I told you not to send them there. What’s the trade?
Miggs
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Slightly above average lmfao. The guy could’ve scored 30 a game no problem but instead chose team basketball and winning. You’re high.
Mostly played PF because of Robinson? The Admiral was there, what, two years with him?
@toddychurch selects:
Anonymous/Associated Press
Per Game: 27.4 points, 13.5 rebounds, 4.3 assists
Per 75 Possessions: 20.9 points, 10.3 rebounds, 3.3 assists
Relative True Shooting Percentage: +0.4
Win Shares per 48 Minutes: .148
Over the first seven years of his career, Elgin Baylor averaged 30.2 points and 15.4 rebounds. In 1961-62 alone, he put up an eye-popping 38.3 points and 18.6 rebounds.
He was an All-Star in 11 of his 14 NBA seasons. And he made All-NBA 10 times. But what Baylor may be best known for is the way he expanded the game. Basketball was something of a ground-bound endeavor for many of Baylor's contemporaries.
In contrast, Baylor took to the air for jumpers, rebounds and even some dunks.
"I told them I take helium before every game," Baylor said of his response to those who used to ask him about his vertical game (h/t Gary Peterson of the Mercury News). "And they honestly believed that."
When you follow basketball's evolutionary trails, Michael Jordan leads you back to Julius Erving. Dr. J, in many ways, can be traced back to Baylor.
In Elgin Baylor: The Man Who Changed Basketball, Bijan C. Bayne explained Baylor's impact further (h/t Jason Reid of The Undefeated):
"The style of basketball that we accept as conventional today all comes out of him. Go away from the stereotype of Elgin [starting] the lineage of Michael [Jordan] and Dominique [Wilkins]. People get caught up on the hang time and the elevation, but he wasn't, for most of his career, Dominique or Vince Carter; it's more subtle than that.
"The things that we accept as routine today, like changing direction after one has left one's feet. A spin move, double-pumping, any improvisation off the dribble, hesitation dribbles, all of that comes out of Elgin. And even to some degree, for a person of his size, no-look passes. That's all from Elgin."
Baylor was a revolutionary. And he set basketball's stage not just for his immediate successors but for the game that's played today.
It's fitting that Elgin Baylor's final season in the NBA (1971-72) was also Julius Erving's first as a professional, and Dr. J discussed the impression Baylor made on him, per Jason Reid of The Undefeated:
"...I remember [Baylor] was the first guy I saw grab the rebound, bring it in transition and then playmake from the top of the key. He was a playmaker, he was great one-on-one, he was great using airspace … he was just ballet in basketball. And that opened a lot of doors for young players, myself in particular, to try that stuff. Suddenly it was like, 'Wow. This can actually work.'"
Elgin Baylor 1961-62 season
Per Game: 27.4 points, 13.5 rebounds, 4.3 assists
Per 75 Possessions: 20.9 points, 10.3 rebounds, 3.3 assists
Relative True Shooting Percentage: +0.4
Win Shares per 48 Minutes: .148
Over the first seven years of his career, Elgin Baylor averaged 30.2 points and 15.4 rebounds. In 1961-62 alone, he put up an eye-popping 38.3 points and 18.6 rebounds.
He was an All-Star in 11 of his 14 NBA seasons. And he made All-NBA 10 times. But what Baylor may be best known for is the way he expanded the game. Basketball was something of a ground-bound endeavor for many of Baylor's contemporaries.
In contrast, Baylor took to the air for jumpers, rebounds and even some dunks.
"I told them I take helium before every game," Baylor said of his response to those who used to ask him about his vertical game (h/t Gary Peterson of the Mercury News). "And they honestly believed that."
When you follow basketball's evolutionary trails, Michael Jordan leads you back to Julius Erving. Dr. J, in many ways, can be traced back to Baylor.
In Elgin Baylor: The Man Who Changed Basketball, Bijan C. Bayne explained Baylor's impact further (h/t Jason Reid of The Undefeated):
"The style of basketball that we accept as conventional today all comes out of him. Go away from the stereotype of Elgin [starting] the lineage of Michael [Jordan] and Dominique [Wilkins]. People get caught up on the hang time and the elevation, but he wasn't, for most of his career, Dominique or Vince Carter; it's more subtle than that.
"The things that we accept as routine today, like changing direction after one has left one's feet. A spin move, double-pumping, any improvisation off the dribble, hesitation dribbles, all of that comes out of Elgin. And even to some degree, for a person of his size, no-look passes. That's all from Elgin."
Baylor was a revolutionary. And he set basketball's stage not just for his immediate successors but for the game that's played today.
It's fitting that Elgin Baylor's final season in the NBA (1971-72) was also Julius Erving's first as a professional, and Dr. J discussed the impression Baylor made on him, per Jason Reid of The Undefeated:
"...I remember [Baylor] was the first guy I saw grab the rebound, bring it in transition and then playmake from the top of the key. He was a playmaker, he was great one-on-one, he was great using airspace … he was just ballet in basketball. And that opened a lot of doors for young players, myself in particular, to try that stuff. Suddenly it was like, 'Wow. This can actually work.'"
@NUMBERICA is on the clock.
Thee Jazz Fan
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Haha. Egg in my face, yes I’m an idiot, I got confused, you got it in. For some reason I thought I traded for 53, I traded for 55. So forget what I said carry on.
toddychurch
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Yep, it’s made it fun though. Many players are being drafted higher than normal in my opinion.
Thee Jazz Fan
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Great pick here. God I wanted to make him my pf but couldn’t pick him due to the new rule. Would’ve looked great next to Curry and Magic.@toddychurch selects:
Elgin Baylor 1961-62 season
Anonymous/Associated Press
Per Game: 27.4 points, 13.5 rebounds, 4.3 assists
Per 75 Possessions: 20.9 points, 10.3 rebounds, 3.3 assists
Relative True Shooting Percentage: +0.4
Win Shares per 48 Minutes: .148
Over the first seven years of his career, Elgin Baylor averaged 30.2 points and 15.4 rebounds. In 1961-62 alone, he put up an eye-popping 38.3 points and 18.6 rebounds.
He was an All-Star in 11 of his 14 NBA seasons. And he made All-NBA 10 times. But what Baylor may be best known for is the way he expanded the game. Basketball was something of a ground-bound endeavor for many of Baylor's contemporaries.
In contrast, Baylor took to the air for jumpers, rebounds and even some dunks.
"I told them I take helium before every game," Baylor said of his response to those who used to ask him about his vertical game (h/t Gary Peterson of the Mercury News). "And they honestly believed that."
When you follow basketball's evolutionary trails, Michael Jordan leads you back to Julius Erving. Dr. J, in many ways, can be traced back to Baylor.
In Elgin Baylor: The Man Who Changed Basketball, Bijan C. Bayne explained Baylor's impact further (h/t Jason Reid of The Undefeated):
"The style of basketball that we accept as conventional today all comes out of him. Go away from the stereotype of Elgin [starting] the lineage of Michael [Jordan] and Dominique [Wilkins]. People get caught up on the hang time and the elevation, but he wasn't, for most of his career, Dominique or Vince Carter; it's more subtle than that.
"The things that we accept as routine today, like changing direction after one has left one's feet. A spin move, double-pumping, any improvisation off the dribble, hesitation dribbles, all of that comes out of Elgin. And even to some degree, for a person of his size, no-look passes. That's all from Elgin."
Baylor was a revolutionary. And he set basketball's stage not just for his immediate successors but for the game that's played today.
It's fitting that Elgin Baylor's final season in the NBA (1971-72) was also Julius Erving's first as a professional, and Dr. J discussed the impression Baylor made on him, per Jason Reid of The Undefeated:
"...I remember [Baylor] was the first guy I saw grab the rebound, bring it in transition and then playmake from the top of the key. He was a playmaker, he was great one-on-one, he was great using airspace … he was just ballet in basketball. And that opened a lot of doors for young players, myself in particular, to try that stuff. Suddenly it was like, 'Wow. This can actually work.'"
Thee Jazz Fan
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Yea agreed. Numb’s the man for that. Made this a way better draft IMO.