Utah Jazz 5 on 5 Roundtable

[orangello]

Fixed

I think the feeling is mutual, especially considering the hilarious fact that if the season is cancelled, DWill may have just played a total of 12 games for the Nets. If I could, I would give KOC a very hetro slap on the butt on this trade.

+1

 

[MattMan]

Spencer Ryan Hall, Salt City Hoops: Fiction. Until last weekend, I was convinced that moving D-Will was the best move for the Jazz, even though I wasn't thrilled with the new pieces. Seeing him in Utah for his charity dodge ball event, however, slapped me back to reality: The Jazz gave up a top two point guard in his prime for pennies on the dollar.

Gotta love solid and unwavering journalism.

When a blogger changes his mind on the spot because he saw DWill was in a chatty good mood at a non-basketball charity event, it's time to realize his opinions aren't worth the time and energy to entertain.

 

[prodigy]

It definitely seems Favors is underrated right now, i think they forgot he was the youngest player in the nba last year

 

[Frankly Jazz]

Gotta love solid and unwavering journalism.

When a blogger changes his mind on the spot because he saw DWill was in a chatty good mood at a non-basketball charity event, it's time to realize his opinions aren't worth the time and energy to entertain.

Spencer Ryan isn't qualified to give his opinion on a jazzfanz thread let alone a ESPN article. Living proof any idiot can have a blog.

 

[prodigy]

Gotta love solid and unwavering journalism.

When a blogger changes his mind on the spot because he saw DWill was in a chtty good mood at a non-basketball charity event, it's time to realize his opinions aren't worth the time and energy to entertain.

i LOL'd at that too and "pennies on the dollar" comment

 

[Jeffrey32]

The Burks vs Jimmer question is ridiculous. 99.9% of Jazz fans have never seen Burks play.

Also, it's a pointless question as Utah did not have the option of drafting Jimmer with the second pick. If anything the question should have been Burks v. Leonard.

Don't see any SF's on the roster. See Hayward, Burks and CJ Miles as SG's primarily.

With Hayward probably a natural NBA 2 and Utah probably letting AK go, having Kwahi Leonard as the future starting 3 might have been the move and a great defensive and rebounding front line for the future with Favors, Kanter, and Leonard.

 

[Zerol]

I don't understand why people keep wanting Hayward to be a 2. He played some PF in college and with some work in he will be an adequate, skilled SF who can shoot and is a threat outside the arc. Burks on the other hand has the potential to be a very good shooting guard in the NBA and CJ can come off the bench for either position.

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

I don't understand why people keep wanting Hayward to be a 2. He played some PF in college and with some work in he will be an adequate, skilled SF who can shoot and is a threat outside the arc. Burks on the other hand has the potential to be a very good shooting guard in the NBA and CJ can come off the bench for either position.

It's because they watched him flourish at the 2 spot at the end of last year. I have a feeling Kobe would prefer the Jazz play him at the 3, though.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

The Jazz may have had a prime D.Will, but they needed to rebuild or they would have squandered his talent and lost him anyway. Now they've got a talented young core, better financial flexibility, and a few assets to work with. Kanter, Favors and Jefferson should be one of the best front courts in the league on both sides of the ball. Hayward and Burks should be competent scorers (12 - 15 pts.) and all-around players on the wing. Now, the Jazz need to solidify the PG position and add a designated defensive stopper. Miles, Millsap and Evans are pretty decent off the bench. The rest is up to coaching and building chemistry. Hopefully, Favors or Kanter emerge as go-to players that create match-up problems for opposing teams.

You can't win in this league without impact bigs. Ask Kobe, D.Wade and Lebron James.

 

[Stifle Tower]

KOC is high on Favors and was the reason why the deal went down so quick. I always thought that we should have asked for at least few second rounders. I think Billy King felt as though he worked over the Jazz in this deal.

I don't. This was the same deal offered for Carmelo. Is Deron better than Carmelo? Yes, but Anthony is an elite scorer and the bigger the player, the higher the price. Also don't forget Carmelo is commited to staying in New York. Deron refused to make that same promise about NJ. So much more risk with the Nets taking Deron and hoping he'll stay IF they can atrract another top-tier FA.

Nets overpaid for Deron. They did so largely because the Knicks made a big move and they had to make some noise in order to stay relevant in advance of their move to Brooklyn. KOC was in the driver's seat because Deron still had a year to go. If the offer hadn't been good enough, KOC could have just refused and looked to trade Williams next season. A former all-star plus two lottery picks...that's a pretty good deal for an injured and disgruntled PG.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

It's because they watched him flourish at the 2 spot at the end of last year. I have a feeling Kobe would prefer the Jazz play him at the 3, though.

I'm with you on this Joe, The Haymaker did flourish @ the 2 at the end of last year. Did anyone else watch those games? Just curious.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

If Eric Gordon was a rookie and had yet to play a game in the NBA people would be talking about his shooting ability and his lack of height for a SG. If the roles were reversed I am sure that people would be very skeptical about the Clippers as well.

My biggest problem was the comment by David Thorpe who I usually agree with:

David Thorpe, Scouts Inc.: Fiction. I think Houston is a solid rebounding/defensive center away from 50-plus wins. (Can McHale get Hasheem Thabeet's awesome potential to that level?) And the Clips have the assets to do some interesting things, as does Minnesota (especially if it hires Adelman). My guess is Utah will enter full rebuilding mode sooner than most people expect.

Houston? Really? Minnesota? Really? The Rockets might be slightly better than the Jazz this year but in 2 years the Rockets will still be a lottery team and the Jazz will be fighting for a top 4 seed in the playoffs. Minnesota is just absurd. Adelman is a great coach but he struggled with HOuston becuase he had a lot of players with the same skill set. Doesn't that describe the T-Wolves as well? I don't see any scenario in which the T-Wolves will be better than the Jazz for at least 4 more years.

My biggest problem was Thorpe calling Millsap a slasher. ****ing dumb. He may slash between guys for rebounds and the like. But he's not a ****ing slasher.