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Utah Jazz and Enes Kanter Workout Report

Hotttnick,

Please read the last sentence of my post. I already covered this. If the Jazz feel that Knight is by far the bpa at that point they don't risk it, period! If they believe its close and like both players then it is worth the risk.

Personally, I believe Kanter is the BPA, perhaps even for the entire draft. As an athletic, coordinated center he has much more possibility for updside than any other player in this draft. Most people agree that Irving and Knight aren't Chris Paul or Deron Williams, but more like Devin Harris and Conly. Kanter looks like he could be a more physical and more ready Chris Kaman. So in my opinion he is the BPA. KOC has said the Jazz need size and will take the BPA. But again, if they are that sold on Knight they don't risk it.

But, I would bet that it is the other way around that the Jazz believe Kanter is a much better upside prospect than Knight, and hence it would take a very big offer to get him. Unprotected 2012, this years #18,#35 and taking on a bell contract etc.

The question then becomes is the financial relief, and picks enough for them to give up on Kanter's upside and embrace Knights. Thats the intrigue of the draft and why GM's do all the homework they do. In the end, time will tell. Injuries and systems will play a roll in a players development, and ultimately a little luck will play a roll.

I wouldn't be surprised if the calculation for the Jazz, is that if they are going to consider this trade multiple scenarios would have to fall in place: For example:

1- Knight has to fall
2- Perhaps they would need to make sure that with the #18 & #12 picks, that they could net them the #7 pick so they could pick up whomever the wanted (Biyombo or Burks). That would make sense, if secretly they fall in love with both Biyombo and Knight but have Kanter rated higher than both. If they know that Biyombo won't get past #8 and Detroit, and they know that Knight won't get past #7 and Sacramento, they wouldn't be able to discuss the swap with Sacramento until Knight goes at #6. Sure this would mean that Washington would take some risk, but they could always flip Knight to Sacramento or some other place...if our swap with Sacramento didn't work out.

Personally I would love to see Knight and Biyombo or Burks as our net take from the draft. But I would need to make sure that we got good value for Kanter in case Knight turns into Devin Harris and Kanter turns into a top 3 center. Could we really complain if we had an occasional all star point guard, and Harrison Barnes from our swap of Kanter, plus a defensive stud in Biyombo?

This draft is filled with so many scenarios and intrigue and will be fun to watch and talk about for years as these players develop.
 
Does Bogut have a legitimate 3pt range or any jump shot for that matter?

This.

And even if Kanter was a carbon copy of Bogut (no 3pt range or consistent jump shot), I'd still take him at 3. Bogut is a very good NBA Center. If he were not toiling in NBA Siberia, more people would realize this. Put him on a "sexy" team like the Lakers, Suns, Knicks, etc and the dudes probably an All-Star.
 
He walked. jk, I've seen him make enough moves, both on the perimeter and back to the basket, that I have NO (none) doubts about his high-level contribution at this level.

To this point I've only shared facts (as I've witnessed) and intentionally avoided in hyperbolic statements (in an effort to keep topics on target ..). To those Jazz friends I know personally, on a day-to-day basis, I've said he's a top 5 center within 3 years .. possibly 2.
 
The Jazz always play it close to the vest. That's how they operate. Look at the D-Will trade compared to the Carmelo trade...

Well yea, but Carmelo was crying like a bitch that he wanted to be traded every chance he got. There wasn't much the Nuggets could have done to keep it quiet. Everybody knew he wanted out.
 
This.

And even if Kanter was a carbon copy of Bogut (no 3pt range or consistent jump shot), I'd still take him at 3. Bogut is a very good NBA Center. If he were not toiling in NBA Siberia, more people would realize this. Put him on a "sexy" team like the Lakers, Suns, Knicks, etc and the dudes probably an All-Star.

This.

Bogut despite his injuries, is worth a top 3 pick.

If Kanter is at least as good as Bogut, then the Jazz just got a steal for Deron (Favors, Harris, and Kanter for Deron). If he's a lot better than Bogut, then the Jazz might have made the best trade in NBA history and avoided the mess that Cleveland and Denver went through.
 
How do we know Kanter is a consistent jump shooter? How do we know he is a consistent 3pt shooter? Yeah he can do them in practice, but how well can he execute them in a real game?
 
How do we know Kanter is a consistent jump shooter? How do we know he is a consistent 3pt shooter? Yeah he can do them in practice, but how well can he execute them in a real game?

Rolling the dice in an attempt to get the best big man in this draft is a much better gamble than going after someone that might be Antawn Jamison (Dwill) or Jason Terry (Knight).

In a draft without any sure franchise player (like Lebron), you have to go off potential and the limited information provided by these scouts and players, and make your best judgment.
 
How do we know Kanter is a consistent jump shooter? How do we know he is a consistent 3pt shooter? Yeah he can do them in practice, but how well can he execute them in a real game?

We don't really. However, those that have watched him play for years (not me, by the way) have said he shoots a high percentage out to 3. I've never heard him called a 'pure shooter' or 'lights out' or anything like that, just very good ... and especially for a near 7 footer.

From what I saw of him last year, I wouldn't even care ... he's not Okur and doesn't WANT to play on the perimeter .. he understands his bread and butter is banging around the rim, brute size/strength, footwork, etc.
 
I'm sure KOC will be very upset you aren't pleased.

Haha, very nice. It's true. You guys realize how much grief KOC gets year in and year out from fans all over? The draft is probably the worst/best day of the year for him from a fan "appreciation" perspective. :) heheh
 
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