Utah to the Pac 10? MWC to get BCS game?
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Birgeneau said that expansion is a real possibility in the near future, and that the Pac-10 is seriously considering "a couple of schools, at least one of which meets the academic standards of the rest of the Pac-10."
So who is the 2nd school and why would they even be considering them if they don't "meet the academic standards of the rest of the Pac-10"?
So who is the 2nd school and why would they even be considering them if they don't "meet the academic standards of the rest of the Pac-10"?
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I would love to watch Utah in the Pac-10. I always thought that Utah/BYU would be a better fit though... it kinda fits with the In-State rivals theme that the rest of the conference has.
A question: What the academic requirements that the Pac 10 has? Does it involve student admissions, or level of classes taught at the institution?
A question: What the academic requirements that the Pac 10 has? Does it involve student admissions, or level of classes taught at the institution?
The PAC-10 is a "research based" conference so the academic qualification is that any school which is part of the PAC-10 must be a research institution. Utah definitely qualifies.
I've seen it argued that this automatically discounts BYU but they are also research oriented. Just as much so as some of the schools already in the PAC-10 I'd be willing to bet. I don't buy this as a legitimate reason to count BYU out.
I think one of the biggest perceived sticking points is that BYU will not play on Sunday. Again, I don't find this insurmountable.
My guess is that it has more to do with BYU's religious affiliation and the PAC-10 not wanting to be part of any such thing. Think about it. If you're wanting to build your TV market which team brings more to the table in this regard? BYU and Utah already split the TV market in Utah but once you leave the state Utah loyalty drops drastically whereas BYU has somewhat of a national following because of the religious affiliation.
gregbroncs
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BYU does not meet the qualification of "research institution" as defined by the Pac-10. I won't pretend to know too much about it but some committee has decided what makes for a research institution and what does not and BYU does not according to them and that is what the Pac-10 uses.
part of it has to do with the number of PhD granted and the number of different programs offered, I'm not sure about the specifics however
this might help explain some of the differences
https://www.ehow.com/about_5401660_definition-tier-university.html
Loki
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Queue colton....
UGLI baby
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nope.
But if it makes you feel better about being left out, then keep pretending thats the reason.
Duck Rodgers
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BYU doesn't have a med school - that's the big knock on their academic resume right now.
Pac 10 =/= everyone. They won't be left out - this whole realignment is going to be massive. It's only clueless Utah fans that act like BYU is not appealing to anyone. Pac 10 has never liked BYU because the Pac 10(at least enough schools to influence the decision) has never liked Mormons. It has nothing to do with BYU sporting events or academics. What exactly is academic about these conferences anyway? What ties them all together? It sure the hell isn't academics. These are geographical partnerships and T.V. markets, nothing more. BYU will end up in whatever the Big 12 becomes because the Big 12 schools consider morals legitimate and wont knock BYU for standing up for their beliefs.
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