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Utah Trade Deadline Discussion

Didnt see it mentioned earlier in all thr mayhem but, Pistons completed a deal with the Memphis Grizzlies to add small forward James Ennis for forward Brice Johnson
 
zyzz said:


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They must have been in the same situation we were in with Hood. I'm guessing that they had already decided they were not paying Payton whatever he would get in RFA and the best offer they received was a 2nd round pick. Since it's Phoenix it will be close to the 1st round at least.
 
elan_prodigy said:
Salty as. Poor LOPO has copped a barrage.
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Been a tough day....

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ORL also traded Oladipo because they wanted to build around Payton. They clearly have no idea what they are doing.
 
SCS said:
My point is that the Jazz made a great trade in a tough market. Jae Crowder on a great contract > a late 1st in the 25-30 range btw.
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The liquid asset of a 1st rounder > Crowder

I would've tried to package that hypothetical pick in another trade.
 
NUMBERICA said:
The liquid asset of a 1st rounder > Crowder

I would've tried to package that hypothetical pick in another trade.
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Honestly, I think the trade made today was a message that we are going to be very aggressive in the summer. Getting Crowder not only let us avoid a big Hood payday but also helps us avoid a Favors payday as well. A month ago, we probably thought Hood and Favors would cost us $25+ this summer. With Crowder, we have what we need to be secure for a bigger objective and he only costs us $7.5.

2018-19 numbers:

Gobert ($23.5), Rubio ($14.5), Ingles ($13), Crowder ($7.5), Mitchell ($3), Bradley ($1.7), and O'Neale ($1.5) = $65 million.
Burks is a $11.5 expiring
Exum expected to get $10
Jerekbo is nonguaranteed ($4.2)
Thabo is nonguaranteed ($5.2)
Udoh is nonguaranteed ($3.4)
Neto is a qualifying offer ($1.8)
So $15 in non-guaranteeds

The salary cap this year (2017-18) was around $99 million and luxury around $120. According to all reports, both are only going up a little next year. So let's just assume the 2018-19 salary cap is $100 and luxury is $121:

If we bring everybody back, we have 13 players at $101.5 million ($19 of luxury cap space).
If we bring everybody back but Burks, we actually have $10 million in space.
If we let everybody walk and trade Burks, we would have $25 million in cap space.

It is conceivable that we could offer Gordon or Parker or LeBron a max contract this summer and still have space under the luxury.
 
NUMBERICA said:
The liquid asset of a 1st rounder > Crowder

I would've tried to package that hypothetical pick in another trade.
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Maybe right now, but I think if he starts playing well again Jae>1st... I understand their thinking at least.
 
LoPo said:
Honestly, I think the trade made today was a message that we are going to be very aggressive in the summer. Getting Crowder not only let us avoid a big Hood payday but also helps us avoid a Favors payday as well. A month ago, we probably thought Hood and Favors would cost us $25+ this summer. With Crowder, we have what we need to be secure for a bigger objective and he only costs us $7.5.

2018-19 numbers:

Gobert ($23.5), Rubio ($14.5), Ingles ($13), Crowder ($7.5), Mitchell ($3), Bradley ($1.7), and O'Neale ($1.5) = $65 million.
Burks is a $11.5 expiring
Exum expected to get $10
Jerekbo is nonguaranteed ($4.2)
Thabo is nonguaranteed ($5.2)
Udoh is nonguaranteed ($3.4)
Neto is a qualifying offer ($1.8)
So $15 in non-guaranteeds

The salary cap this year (2017-18) was around $99 million and luxury around $120. According to all reports, both are only going up a little next year. So let's just assume the 2018-19 salary cap is $100 and luxury is $121:

If we bring everybody back, we have 13 players at $101.5 million ($19 of luxury cap space).
If we bring everybody back but Burks, we actually have $10 million in space.
If we let everybody walk and trade Burks, we would have $25 million in cap space.

It is conceivable that we could offer Gordon or Parker or LeBron a max contract this summer and still have space under the luxury.
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How are the Jazz trading Burks to have cap space next year, realistically?

That's a hypothetical, please stop doing what you do for at least today.
 
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