Very good read..

[LogGrad98]

I found this article and thought it touched on some very important topics. It is nearly impossible to pick out just one quote, and yes it is a long read, but it really hits the high-points of political correctness and our current "freedom-from-offense" culture. Specifically it addresses the fact that this indoctrination is happening on campuses around the country, and is actually student and not administration driven for the most part.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/the-coddling-of-the-american-mind/399356/

Here are a few select quotes:

Something strange is happening at America’s colleges and universities. A movement is arising, undirected and driven largely by students, to scrub campuses clean of words, ideas, and subjects that might cause discomfort or give offense. Last December, Jeannie Suk wrote in an online article for The New Yorker about law students asking her fellow professors at Harvard not to teach rape law—or, in one case, even use the word violate (as in “that violates the law”) lest it cause students distress. In February, Laura Kipnis, a professor at Northwestern University, wrote an essay in The Chronicle of Higher Education describing a new campus politics of sexual paranoia—and was then subjected to a long investigation after students who were offended by the article and by a tweet she’d sent filed Title IX complaints against her. In June, a professor protecting himself with a pseudonym wrote an essay for Vox describing how gingerly he now has to teach. “I’m a Liberal Professor, and My Liberal Students Terrify Me,” the headline said. A number of popular comedians, including Chris Rock, have stopped performing on college campuses (see Caitlin Flanagan’s article in this month’s issue). Jerry Seinfeld and Bill Maher have publicly condemned the oversensitivity of college students, saying too many of them can’t take a joke.

This new climate is slowly being institutionalized, and is affecting what can be said in the classroom, even as a basis for discussion. During the 2014–15 school year, for instance, the deans and department chairs at the 10 University of California system schools were presented by administrators at faculty leader-training sessions with examples of microaggressions. The list of offensive statements included: “America is the land of opportunity” and “I believe the most qualified person should get the job.”

Claims of a right not to be offended have continued to arise since then, and universities have continued to privilege them. In a particularly egregious 2008 case, for instance, Indiana University–Purdue University at Indianapolis found a white student guilty of racial harassment for reading a book titled Notre Dame vs. the Klan. The book honored student opposition to the Ku Klux Klan when it marched on Notre Dame in 1924. Nonetheless, the picture of a Klan rally on the book’s cover offended at least one of the student’s co-workers (he was a janitor as well as a student), and that was enough for a guilty finding by the university’s Affirmative Action Office.

This article had a real effect on me. I think it succinctly sums up what is wrong with the way the politically correct movement has gone, as well as the effect of decades of coddling has had on our kids. The effect of the "abducted child syndrome" parents who feel it is child abuse to let a kid walk 6 blocks to a friend's house and will not hesitate to call the police, for example, helicopter parenting for another. These kids now enter college thinking they have a litigious right to not ever be offended and therefore lose the ability, or never develop it, to think critically.

I thought it was important enough to share on JF. Please take the time to read it. It is worth it. Enjoy JazzFanzerz.

Gee I sure hope I didn't offend anyone.

 

[fishonjazz]

Bunch of *******.

People like this are going to have a hard time in life..... A rude awakening is in their future

 

[DutchJazzer]

**** political correctness right up the behind

 

[Deleted member 848]

As a student in University, many are more concerned with the growing privatization of University, and the impacts that correspond with receiving funding from industry donors.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

As a student in University, many are more concerned with the growing privatization of University, and the impacts that correspond with receiving funding from industry donors.

wtf is University?

 

[VINYLONE]

I found this article and thought it touched on some very important topics. It is nearly impossible to pick out just one quote, and yes it is a long read, but it really hits the high-points of political correctness and our current "freedom-from-offense" culture. Specifically it addresses the fact that this indoctrination is happening on campuses around the country, and is actually student and not administration driven for the most part.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/the-coddling-of-the-american-mind/399356/

Here are a few select quotes:

This article had a real effect on me. I think it succinctly sums up what is wrong with the way the politically correct movement has gone, as well as the effect of decades of coddling has had on our kids. The effect of the "abducted child syndrome" parents who feel it is child abuse to let a kid walk 6 blocks to a friend's house and will not hesitate to call the police, for example, helicopter parenting for another. These kids now enter college thinking they have a litigious right to not ever be offended and therefore lose the ability, or never develop it, to think critically.

I thought it was important enough to share on JF. Please take the time to read it. It is worth it. Enjoy JazzFanzerz.

Gee I sure hope I didn't offend anyone.

Great article. I've read other pieces on the fragility of the current crop of students exiting American universities. The most recent one that comes to mind is another Atlantic piece from the same issue regarding comics and their experiences trying to book shows on campuses.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/thats-not-funny/399335/

Anyway, That being said, I have yet to experience in the real world one of these millennials "act out" as a result of perceived or actual uncomfortability. Colleges and universities are special places in our macro world and allow a student to surround themselves with like minded individuals, so once they enter the real world do these attitudes manifest?

 

[moevillini]

I think there needs to be a trigger warning - or at least a "spoiler alert" for this

Spoiler

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SO ANNOYING!!!!

 

[moevillini]

it is an interesting article but one that I think makes the issue seem larger than it is in reality - both in how widespread of a problem it is, and in people's over-reactions to perceived insults

Plus I think the author was trying too hard to use all the popular buzzwords and nomenclature of the genre

 

[VINYLONE]

it is an interesting article but one that I think makes the issue seem larger than it is in reality - both in how widespread of a problem it is, and in people's over-reactions to perceived insults

What makes you think this?

Also, why don't you like using punctuation and why do you use improper punctuation in certain spots?

 

[moevillini]

Also, why don't you like using punctuation and why do you use improper punctuation in certain spots?

Do you have a problem with me?

 

[VINYLONE]

Do you have a problem with me?

I don't think so.

 

[moevillini]

it is an interesting article but one that I think makes the issue seem larger than it is in reality - both in how widespread of a problem it is, and in people's over-reactions to perceived insults...

What makes you think this?

Well, for one thing:

...Anyway, That being said, I have yet to experience in the real world one of these millennials "act out" as a result of perceived or actual uncomfortability. Colleges and universities are special places in our macro world and allow a student to surround themselves with like minded individuals, so once they enter the real world do these attitudes manifest?

Plus I think the author was trying too hard to use all the popular buzzwords and nomenclature of the genre

trigger warnings
catastrophizing
dichotomous thinking
mental filtering
vindictive protectiveness

 

[♪alt13]

I think there needs to be a trigger warning - or at least a "spoiler alert" for this

Spoiler

ED advertising

SO ANNOYING!!!!

Do you mean ads for penis pills?

 

[Dr. Jones]

As a student in University, many are more concerned with the growing privatization of University, and the impacts that correspond with receiving funding from industry donors.

I suppose "many" are as you describe, but lmao that most would even understand wtf u just said.

Education, beer, and sex.. In reverse order.

 

[Deleted member 848]

I suppose "many" are as you describe, but lmao that most would even understand wtf u just said.

Education, beer, and sex.. In reverse order.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Dr. Jones again.

"If you want to get laid, go to college. If you want an education, go to the library" - Frank Zappa

 

[VINYLONE]

As a student in University, many are more concerned with the growing privatization of University, and the impacts that correspond with receiving funding from industry donors.

Can you be more specific as to what you're saying here? And are you talking about schools here in the US or abroad?

 

[franklin]

As a student in University, many are more concerned with the growing privatization of University, and the impacts that correspond with receiving funding from industry donors.

Is there a single liberal talking point you don't buy into hook, line, and sinker?

I would think a fan of "university" would appreciate the private sector seeking out, promoting, gaining funding for, and filling much needed niches in the modern world such as nurses. We do have a shortage of them as well as IT, the two top private university promotions currently.

It's a funding issue not a political issue about hating EVERYTHING private sector that does a job better than previously. If you want to create new tech colleges that seem to have fallen by the way side then why not focus on that instead of hating on the new companies who have risen to meet a very much needed service in enabling young folks to earn a decent living by performing an advanced skill that we desperately need?

I know the answer to that question...

 

[Hotdog]

I also know the answer to that question.

 

[VINYLONE]

I came across this article recently that reminded me of this thread...

For whatever reason, a lot of OL's viewpoints remind me of the students referenced in this article and that's why I thought he was younger than he really was.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...g-student-resilience-serious-problem-colleges

Excerpt:

A year ago I received an invitation from the head of Counseling Services at a major university to join faculty and administrators for discussions about how to deal with the decline in resilience among students. At the first meeting, we learned that emergency calls to Counseling had more than doubled over the past five years. Students are increasingly seeking help for, and apparently having emotional crises over, problems of everyday life. Recent examples mentioned included a student who felt traumatized because her roommate had called her a “bitch” and two students who had sought counseling because they had seen a mouse in their off-campus apartment. The latter two also called the police, who kindly arrived and set a mousetrap for them.