How the heck do you know this as a fact? Where you in the lockroom when everything went down? CJ is shooting more because Sloan isn't there to tell him to stop doing it, injuries have a part in it. Raja, AK and Okur are not in the rotation so CJ has more shots to take. However, I agree CJ should stop shooting it so much when he isn't making them. Perhaps if he misses two jumpshots in a row then he needs to drive or pass the ball.
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How the heck do you know this as a fact? Where you in the lockroom when everything went down? CJ is shooting more because Sloan isn't there to tell him to stop doing it, injuries have a part in it. Raja, AK and Okur are not in the rotation so CJ has more shots to take. However, I agree CJ should stop shooting it so much when he isn't making them. Perhaps if he misses two jumpshots in a row then he needs to drive or pass the ball.
what really struck me was the bench and the contrast in styles between AK and Raja Bell
Raja looked suave and debonair while AK looked very meshuganah
Raja looked suave and debonair while AK looked very meshuganah
mellow
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I got to go to the game last night. You can see alot even from the 18th row of the upper bowl. My observations:
Big AL is good and could be great. He needs to learn to use his left pivot foot rather than his right. He gets the ball in the post then turns on his right pivot to face the defender. Dude, you're just giving the defender time to reset and if you happen to hit a couple and the other team decides to double you create time for them to bring a double from anywhere. Why hasn't the coaching staff taught him to push his man deep step through with hsi left foot and seal the defender for an easy play in the middle? The defense overplays his first move so badly a move to the middle would be there almost every time.
This team's body language sucks and there is no leader. I watched AL get a rebound and get fouled. The team didn't huddle up, there were no high-fives, low fives, butt slaps or pats on the back. CJ and Milsap walked right to the blocks, Deron cornered a ref and complained (again) and whoever else was back. After the first shot Milsap made a token step towards AL and Deron walked over for a five, but was still jarring at the ref. At substitutions, foul shots and in and out of time outs the guys weren't cheering for each other or fiving. Nothing.
CJ has terrible body language. He looked defensive. No not like he was defending the Warriors. Every mistake or every timeout he threw his arms out and looked at the bench as if to say "what do you want me to do" or "you can't blame that on me". After his 6 misses in a row down the stretch he barely made it into the huddle.
Deron needs to shut up with the refs and talk to his coachs and teamates. His negative attitude seems to have seeped into every player, every coach, and into the fans. You can't be that negative and expect good things to return to you in basketball or in life. Every time the play stopped for any reason he was complaining to the refs. It's like he is his own man and the team is thier own. Dee Brown, Derek Fisher where are you?
Now he is the best player on the team, he has the new coach in his pocket, and management scared to upset him least he leave. Jerry may have been the last person who could protect Deron from himself. I predict Deron will implode before season ends. And it will be epic.
Big AL is good and could be great. He needs to learn to use his left pivot foot rather than his right. He gets the ball in the post then turns on his right pivot to face the defender. Dude, you're just giving the defender time to reset and if you happen to hit a couple and the other team decides to double you create time for them to bring a double from anywhere. Why hasn't the coaching staff taught him to push his man deep step through with hsi left foot and seal the defender for an easy play in the middle? The defense overplays his first move so badly a move to the middle would be there almost every time.
This team's body language sucks and there is no leader. I watched AL get a rebound and get fouled. The team didn't huddle up, there were no high-fives, low fives, butt slaps or pats on the back. CJ and Milsap walked right to the blocks, Deron cornered a ref and complained (again) and whoever else was back. After the first shot Milsap made a token step towards AL and Deron walked over for a five, but was still jarring at the ref. At substitutions, foul shots and in and out of time outs the guys weren't cheering for each other or fiving. Nothing.
CJ has terrible body language. He looked defensive. No not like he was defending the Warriors. Every mistake or every timeout he threw his arms out and looked at the bench as if to say "what do you want me to do" or "you can't blame that on me". After his 6 misses in a row down the stretch he barely made it into the huddle.
Deron needs to shut up with the refs and talk to his coachs and teamates. His negative attitude seems to have seeped into every player, every coach, and into the fans. You can't be that negative and expect good things to return to you in basketball or in life. Every time the play stopped for any reason he was complaining to the refs. It's like he is his own man and the team is thier own. Dee Brown, Derek Fisher where are you?
Now he is the best player on the team, he has the new coach in his pocket, and management scared to upset him least he leave. Jerry may have been the last person who could protect Deron from himself. I predict Deron will implode before season ends. And it will be epic.
vegas
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CJ 41% fg 33% 3pts
Raja 43% fg 36% 3pts
And the choice for Wes was either him or Al (we're not on an unlimited bankroll). Who would you take? Raja was just an attempt to fill Wes' spot with less $.
And I'm with thriller. After the 6-game losing streak I knew there was something seriously wrong. I lowered my expectations then. It looked like things were very slowly improving, but in the last 3 games, I can't really point to even slow improvements.
I couldn't believe how many empty seats there were last night. The front office has to be feeling some heat.
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This.
By far the biggest change that I've seen in the Jazz the last few years. They're not having fun. They look like it's "painful" to play a game. Unbelievable.
good post Mellow, though I'm not sure I'd agree that deron has "the new coach in his pocket" - - I'd like to give Ty Corbin more credit than that. And Deron as well. And your last couple sentences make me really, really sad.
Deron really needs a strong teammate - not just in the skills department, but in the personality and PMA department.
(PMA - Positive Mental Attitude for those too young to know who W. Clement Stone was)
Deron really needs a strong teammate - not just in the skills department, but in the personality and PMA department.
(PMA - Positive Mental Attitude for those too young to know who W. Clement Stone was)
sahlensguy
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Derek Fisher.
Unfortunately it appears DWill doesn't play well with others. On top of that he's an ineffective leader.
A bad combo to build around.
This is definitely increasing the chances we are going to dump some serious salary before the deadline. Will be tough to dump Memo though since he want be back until after deadline. We probably would have been willing to pay a pretty high luxury tax if we were Championship material, but hard to believe we will now.
Yea... I'm very shocked we lost this game.
I like Leonard a lot. I think he would be an awesome pick for us if he was around.
I also think he is a better scorer than the stats show.
vegas
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Letting AK expires saves us the most, unless somehow Okur's situation becomes worse and can become covered by insurance. Then I could see a Harp/Maynor type move; as a fan, those moves suck hard.
Dumping salary doesn't really do much good since the team would likely receive longer contracts in return, which, if you look at the Jazz' payroll for next season, is not a good idea. I would suggest that everyone check out this link before making suggestions on what the Jazz need to do with regards to personnel movement.
https://www.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/jazz.jsp
Even with AK expiring at the end of the year and with only 8 players (picking up options) under contract for next year, the Jazz will be above this year's salary cap and with the new CBA, the salary cap will likely be going down. The Jazz won't have any cap room to sign free agents unless the MLE still exists.
The Jazz need to bite the bullet and pay the tax this year, make the playoffs (so we give our pick to Minny this year and not next), figure out if AK is worth bringing back and pray that the new CBA allows them to be competitive in the coming years.
To lazy to look it up. not if we trade with a team under the salary cap. not sure how many there are, but there are a few I believe. See last years trades. We dumped salary last year when we were a better team, so what makes you think we will not this year?