firegirl
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Failure isn't a bad thing. It's part of the journey. In fact it is absolutely necessary to fail.
Was this season a success?
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Failure isn't a bad thing. It's part of the journey. In fact it is absolutely necessary to fail.
I agree. And this was a failure. Calling it that isn’t a problem. So now let’s see the FO work on solutions.
Zombie
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This is where I fall. I guess it's somewhat unfair to expect a huge jump in regular season wins or in the playoffs when your team is being led by a second year player, I'm fine with how that played out all things considered.
If this team is going to make a jump to the next tier it's going to have to come from roster improvement imo.
firegirl
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I don't think it's a blow it all up failure. Not saying you're saying that. Just saying.
nateboz
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2 players improved, Rudy and Donnovan, that's a w. A+
The rest of the roster either stayed the same or very slightly improved or declined. C
Lindsey traded for Korver then took off the rest off the year. Huge fail. F
Coaching was phenomenal, the roster that Quin had to work with was hugely flawed and yet the Jazz still ended with 51 wins on the year. A+
Jazz financially was definitely profitable. A
Overall B
Offseason will be a ton of player turnover, it has to. If Lindsey wants to build a contender this offseason will show it. Let's see if Lindsey is a good salesman or if he's just full of excuses again.
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The rest of the roster either stayed the same or very slightly improved or declined. C
Lindsey traded for Korver then took off the rest off the year. Huge fail. F
Coaching was phenomenal, the roster that Quin had to work with was hugely flawed and yet the Jazz still ended with 51 wins on the year. A+
Jazz financially was definitely profitable. A
Overall B
Offseason will be a ton of player turnover, it has to. If Lindsey wants to build a contender this offseason will show it. Let's see if Lindsey is a good salesman or if he's just full of excuses again.
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I agree we don’t blow it all up. But I want to see 1, preferably 2, real moves.
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Those things are not guaranteed at all... teams could have exposed DM as fools gold or both guys could have regressed. It’s tough to not give the team credit for the things the did improve on and to focus on their failures.
It’s a mixed bag but trust me it could be much worse. I just can’t call the whole thing a failure. I also don’t think we were winning it all this year and I don’t think we lost a whole lot in this “failure”. If we had beat the spurs in the first round then lost to Houston in 5 is that failure?
Again if we want to say it’s disappointing I would agree. Things just aren’t this black and white.
firegirl
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How can you say DL tool off half the year? I just don't get this mentality. You LITERALLY know nothing that goes on behind the scenes. Like, zero. And yet you talk as if you were in the meetings and on the phone calls with him.
The title of this thread and the topic is whether the season was a success, not whether it was a failure. It seems you're indicating this season was not a success. Because it wasn't.
To repeat, other players, agents, and history do not care about the nuances of losing a first-round series in five games, what favors do we do ourselves by engaging in such apologetics? You know Gobert and Mitchell don't.
nateboz
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I don't care about what he tried to do, I care about what he did.
He traded for Korver, that's what his entire season was. He didn't even sign 1 guy out of the g league this year. He made the least amount of moves of any team in the league. The Jazz have several holes on the roster and he didn't fix anything, he didn't even patch it.
The Jazz had to play Donnovan at point guard 25% of the year simple because there wasn't a healthy one on the roster. Naz was for some reason but he wasn't good enough to get any minutes.
Now he's already making up excuses about not signing free agents for this upcoming offseason because they're expensive.
Lindsey has to do more than he has, no more excuses.
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The mailman
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This season was not a success. It was a big disappointment. Let’s be honest, we were thinking 3rd seed - and we were thinking 2nd round exit at the very least. I guess it could have been an improvement from last year if we had at least taken 2 games from Houston. Something just didn’t feel right all season long - unlike last year. Exum’s injury was a bummer too.
Grade: C
Order of business...
Get Rubio out of here and go get a star PG. Do everything in your power to either get Conley/Walker/Holliday
Upgrade at either the SF or the PF position. Ingles got exposed bad. He needs to be coming off the bench.
Hopefully see if Exum is part of the future once and for all, and if he isn’t, include him in a trade package before he loses all of his value completely.
Grade: C
Order of business...
Get Rubio out of here and go get a star PG. Do everything in your power to either get Conley/Walker/Holliday
Upgrade at either the SF or the PF position. Ingles got exposed bad. He needs to be coming off the bench.
Hopefully see if Exum is part of the future once and for all, and if he isn’t, include him in a trade package before he loses all of his value completely.