We HAVE to make a trade.

[LoPo]

Here is what is depressing:

#1 - most reports say that the trading will start happening after December 15 when most players are available to trade (summer free agent signings and players on the roster before last summer): https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2018/08/players-who-cant-be-traded-until-december-15-3.html

#2 - we can't trade Favors, Exum or Neto until after January 15 because they were re-signed: https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2018/08/players-who-cant-be-traded-until-january-15-3.html

I want all of you to go through that list of players on the January 15 list. Almost every one is an important player on their respective roster. Guys like PG, LeVine, Capella, Gordon, etc. Then you get to our guys and you realize that all 3 are questionable signings and all 3 would be awesome to use in deals starting on December 15.

 

[One Brow]

Then you get to our guys and you realize that all 3 are questionable signings and all 3 would be awesome to use in deals starting on December 15.

They really can't be both questionable signings and awesome trade components, you know.

 

[LoPo]

They really can't be both questionable signings and awesome trade components, you know.

Definitely not awesome, but definitely better than....
Burks
Thabo
Udoh
Bradley
2nd rounders

I think the Favors contract was designed so it could be one of our better trade assets. As it turns out, our best trade partner Washington will likely make a deal before we can even use Favors in a trade.

 

[JimLes]

I think the Favors contract was designed so it could be one of our better trade assets. As it turns out, our best trade partner Washington will likely make a deal before we can even use Favors in a trade.

There is nothing stopping the Jazz talking about or even agreeing a trade with the Bullets right now. It just can't be completed until Jan 15. If our offer is the best one, I don't think Washington say no simply because they can't wait a month for Favors. It's not like they're in a hurry to contend.

 

[LoPo]

There is nothing stopping the Jazz talking about or even agreeing a trade with the Bullets right now. It just can't be completed until Jan 15. If our offer is the best one, I don't think Washington say no simply because they can't wait a month for Favors. It's not like they're in a hurry to contend.

Very good points.

However, they might be in a hurry to tank. If they were to trade Wall and Beal, they would be concentrating on a rebuild. Waiting over 6 weeks for a trade might put them further away from the 1st pick.

I have a feeling that if Washington does start trading, they clean house. If Beal is unhappy with the Front Office, then shedding Wall and others for the sake of a clean start isn't going to make him any happier. Everybody goes, they look to shed salary, and they look to tank.

 

[Kyoto]

You badly misread his post. Is English your primary language?

I would argue that there is better talent in the second round. Yes, there may be better "right now" players in free agency, any idiot knows that, but if you want someone that could turn into a great player, you know, talent, then you have a better chance in the draft.

 

[One Brow]

I would argue that there is better talent in the second round. Yes, there may be better "right now" players in free agency, any idiot knows that, but if you want someone that could turn into a great player, you know, talent, then you have a better chance in the draft.

There may be more potential and better upsides in the second round, as opposed to the known quantities in free agency, but the chance of a starting talent is slim (which is why when on is found, it's a big deal). The overall talent level is greater just among the mid-level exception players.

 

[Kyoto]

There may be more potential and better upsides in the second round, as opposed to the known quantities in free agency, but the chance of a starting talent is slim (which is why when on is found, it's a big deal). The overall talent level is greater just among the mid-level exception players.

I agree.

 

[DasJazz]

Dials up his DL voice “look can we take a player.... yes. But we take those funds and reinvest them in the program. The millers have been so great... we have a trust now. We are looking at some things and always evaluating what we have and need. I mean really we added Dante Exum and AB this year... tony Bradley has improved his balance by 19%... graysons elite hand pads have actually grown. So we are looking to improve from within... and what I mean by that is we are doing yoga and meditation and becoming better people.”

Nailed it.

 

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

He changed the Kings season.

Given his potential fit on our team I don’t think we can accurately say that he wouldn’t have changed things. He fills many holes on our team.

Bjelica's minutes are down. The main improvement with the Kings is with De'aaron Fox and the fact that they're really trying hard on defense. Bagley's been good for them too.

 

[Luiscar]

Rubio will not move from Jazz, better, accept him.

 

[LoPo]

I'm moving the Suns releasing Canaan conversation over here. So they now have two open roster spots. That can't be a coincidence. Let's just speculate that we are involved.

Maybe they are looking at (remember that Ryan Anderson is an expiring):

Ryan Anderson, Josh Jackson and the Milwaukee pick
for
Rubio, Thabo, Udoh and Bradley
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yb75wa7j

OR

Ryan Anderson and draft considerations from the Suns
for
Burks, Thabo and Bradley
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9lfno3s

OR

We get Otto Porter and some sort of draft considerations
Suns get Rubio, Thabo and Bradley
Wizards get Ryan Anderson, Udoh and draft considerations from Suns
http://tradenba.com/trades/Hyg_4530X