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We seriously need to revisit Burks at the backup PG

PG_AB said:
shelvin mack is at best worth like 4 mil a season.. same for neto.. vouching for these players over Burks is a vote for mediocrity..


having the backup PG just be a placeholder that tries not to screw up is a concession (LUXURY) Utah can't afford vs top-competition, especially not when they have other options sitting right there on the roster...
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Definitely. The truth is that anyone would rather watch Alec Burks grab rebounds and run up the floor over Mack, Neto, or Exum.

Also to consider is that he hasn't played in a long time and injuries are a common theme around here. The Jazz expect playoffs so they need to know what playing Burks can do by then; there's still enough time and they'd prefer he is healthy. The Jazz also need to keep winning games while his teammates figure out how to play best with him - especially since he can make plays.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/netora01/on-off/2017 <---- Neto's On/Off stats

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/e/exumda01/on-off/2017 <---- Exum's On/Off stats

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/macksh01/on-off/2017 <---- Mack's On/Off stats

Let me be clear, I think all 3 players "suck", but I'm completely convinced Neto knows how to get out of his own way and let the team succeed. Mack makes a ton of bonehead decisions on the basketball court and can't stay infront of anyone and Exum just doesnt know how to play basketball and can't hit an open 3.

You seem to be hung up on the fact that opposing team's really try to bully Neto and score on him. That is a thing and I get why you focus on it so much. I did too at first. It would bother me that Neto seemed to get score on right away when he checked in and get "exposed". The reality though is the team fares much better defensively with Neto. He pressures the ball better and actually keeps opposing ball-handlers in front of him.
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Great post cy. Honestly all of your posts have been fantastic in this discussion and you were even fare and not rude.

Killed it.

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kiri.de.carlos said:
I'm all for Neto getting the 10-15 minutes behind Hill, as has been said, and witnessed by watching the games, he makes less errors. He is fast on offense and defense. He is gorgeous ...but is unforinately a little short. I think he does a much better job at staying in front of other quick guards than Mack and Exum without fouling like crazy.

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Fixed for you.
 
KqWIN said:
The backup PG is tough right now because they're getting 10-15, but over 4 different shifts of 3-5 minutes. It's hard to play 3 minutes at a time and consistently make an impact. Neto brings the most energy and is theoretically the most reliable shooter so I'm fine with him playing. I don't think there is much separation between the three, so I'd just play Exum if it were my choice, but none of these guys have stepped up so there isn't really a right or wrong answer.

Once Hood comes back, I think it should be Alec. It isn't so much Alec playing PG as it is no one playing PG. He's a stronger player than Exum/Mack/Neto. Quin has a lot of decisions at hand. I'm interested to see who he decides who he wants between Hill, Hood, or Hayward to run the 6/6/6 rotation and carry a bench unit.

I also think he needs to push Joe Johnson to the 4 more often. It will squeeze Lyles and Diaw out of minutes, but come playoff time I think he'll need to decide on just one of them anyways. After playing around in my lineup chart for a few minutes, I think the best way to do it is to split the PF minutes 4 ways between Favors, Diaw, Lyles, and "small" to finish the season. Once the playoffs role around you cut down to 8 main guys and maybe one more getting spot minutes.
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Great post. I agree about playing jj at the 4 more instead of lyles/diaw.
I really like lyles and think he is a keeper but I really want to see how far this team can go this year. To me that means playing your best guys and throwing out development of youth to some extent. Burks takes all of the backup pg minutes and jj takes most of the backup 4 minutes. And even if that were to happen I still think you can keep everybody fresh. Hill, burks, hood, hayward, ingles, jj, favors, and rudy should get the Lions share of minutes and everyone else get spot minutes here and there imo.
 
Tom349 said:
Neto's advanced stats are no guide to how much of impact he is having given he it is such a small sample size and has all come in the last 10 games where we have been pretty much at full health. Compared to that of Exum and Mack who didn't have the advantage of playing with a fit Favors/Burks and played in more losses.
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This is a solid counter point.
 
NAOS said:
Q is already headed in this direction, IMO. But, he's getting some good action out of his pawns right, so I expect him to keep using them while he can. Triple-wing is gonna happen, though. Plenty.
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Mack, Exum, and Neto combine for 0 minutes tonight.
 
Looked good to me. As long as Alec is on the floor with Ingles and another passer Diaw/Hayward it probably would be good.
 
What I like about Burks is that he brings excitement to the game and he is fun to watch. If he could develop a pull-up jumper like Westbrook, he could average 25 or more points a game with starters minutes.
 
Eenie-Meenie said:
What I like about Burks is that he brings excitement to the game and he is fun to watch. If he could develop a pull-up jumper like Westbrook, he could average 25 or more points a game with starters minutes.
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I don't know about that latter part but I def agree with the excitement he brings...
 
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