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Weak draft vs strong draft?

it's a LOOOOTTT different than other drafts. 40 rounds + compensatory picks of largely unknown kids, of which maybe 2 or 3 will make the top club.

And from what I understand teams like the Yankees can spend essentially unlimited amounts of money on their roster. Is baseball more disparate than the NBA in regard to big market vs small market? From what I've picked up it's pretty bad.
 
Are the Indians considered a "top club?"

I think when he says top clubs, he means the majors, the lesser clubs being the farm teams. You probably know this though, as I am sure you are just ribbing scootsy.
 
I think when he says top clubs, he means the majors, the lesser clubs being the farm teams. You probably know this though, as I am sure you are just ribbing scootsy.

Actually.. I really did think he meant the best teams. I was also unsure whether the Indians are any good.. meaning, now.

I know embarrassingly little (nothing) about baseball.
 
Actually.. I really did think he meant the best teams. I was also unsure whether the Indians are any good.. meaning, now.

I know embarrassingly little (nothing) about baseball.

oh haha. I only know that about baseball from when I was a kid. I only know that the Yankees are usually good, and the Braves played the Indians in the playoffs once when I was in middle school....

Scootsy, educate us on baseball
 
Exactly. I find it funny when the holier than thou crowd preaches finishing college... when we supposedly go to college, mainly, to learn a trade and earn a living.
Irony.

How much money did Barkley lose going back to USC his senior year? Matt Lienhart as well.

I hope you're kidding.

But I'm sure you're not.


Lol... I thought you were arguing with me but it turns out you were agreeing. I thought you were trying to say kids do better by staying in school and when I saw your examples, I was like ho-leeeee ****!

Glad to see I was wrong.
 
Lol... I thought you were arguing with me but it turns out you were agreeing. I thought you were trying to say kids do better by staying in school and when I saw your examples, I was like ho-leeeee ****!

Glad to see I was wrong.

LOL. I didn't quite no what to make of your response. ha ha.
 
Scootsy, educate us on baseball

baseball is extreeemely unique when it comes to american sports because it indeed does not have a salary cap. 17 of the last 18 world series winners have been in the top half of the league payroll-wise, but there is still a surprising amount of parity when it comes to baseball. 20 different teams have won the world series in the last 30 years. Think about it... how many other leagues have had 2/3 of their teams win a championship in the last 35 years?

take other leagues that have no salary cap. the top 4 spenders in the premier league (top-level english club soccer, think manchester united, chelsea... etc.) have won the last 18 seasons and 20 of the 21 seasons since the leagues inception!!! that's like a rotation between the lakers, knicks, heat and celtics winning the nba finals for 2 decades.

this **** will blow your mind... ready? the lowest payroll in baseball this year is a measly $24m while the highest is a whoppin' $216m. how many more wins has that extra $192m bought the dodgers compared to the houston astros? 5. Granted... we're only 1/4 the way through the season, but if this rate continues, $192m bought la an extra 20 wins.

when it comes to the draft though, with their being soooo many players drafted each year with relatively few that make it to their team, guys are often selected based on the likelihood of signing for a certain amount as opposed to just their talent. the fact of the matter is most of them are going to spend 4-5 years in the minors and quit playing ball when they realize they don't have a shot to make it to the mlb club.

there are also interesting rules regarding draft eligibility. you are basically eligble out of high school, or even younger if you have amateur status outside the county (i think king felix was drafted at 16). you also are eligible anytime if you go to a jc or non-dI school. but if you go dI, you aren't eligible until after your junior season or until you turn 21. so most of the kids playing dI ball actually aren't the best players... most of the best players either get drafted or are playing jc ball to so they don't have to wait three years to make the jump.
 
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Personally I don't buy into it. Since I've been visiting Jazzfanz.com I've heard this notion put forth one way or the other every year. I'd love to see a breakdown of talent 4 years later from a "weak draft" vs a "strong draft."


Strong Draft:2000 top 5 players selected: Kenyon Martin, Michael Redd, Mike Miller, Jamal Crawford, Hedo Turkoglu,
Weak Draft: 1984 top 5 players selected: Michael Jordan, Hakeem Olijuwon, John Stockton, Charles Barkley, Alvin Robertson

Buy it now?
 
Strong Draft:2000 top 5 players selected: Kenyon Martin, Michael Redd, Mike Miller, Jamal Crawford, Hedo Turkoglu,
Weak Draft: 1984 top 5 players selected: Michael Jordan, Hakeem Olijuwon, John Stockton, Charles Barkley, Alvin Robertson

Buy it now?

Haha.. nice.
 
just to show though that while most teams who win have larger-ish payrolls, but spending lots doesn't guarantee wins in the slightest, the division leaders ranks in payroll:

1st
6th
8th
11th
21st
24th


the 6 teams who are last in their division ranked in terms of payroll:

2nd
10th
14th
23rd
29th
30th
 
Deciding if it is weak or strong can only be done 2 to 3 years after, really. There are always suprises and there are always busts.
 
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