Weight Loss Surgery

[Gameface]

I know this is kind of opposite of the meaning of this thread but lets say in an amazing hypothetical that all the food that is bad for us becomes good for us. Like eating a cookie is similar to eating a banana. Eating a burger is like eating broccoli.
What is the food that you dont eat much of currently because its so unhealthy but you love it that you would now eat a ton of under this new hypothetical?

For it would be donuts and caramelo candy bars. I love donuts but probably only eat like 1 every 3 months or something. Same with caramelos. If all unhealthy food suddenly became healthy then i would eat a **** ton of those two things.

Donuts for sure. I can kill a dozen of them in a go if not held back by the knowledge that they are just straight sugar, fat and carbs. After that chocolate, especially chocolate with caramel or peanut butter cups.

 

[fishonjazz]

Donuts for sure. I can kill a dozen of them in a go if not held back by the knowledge that they are just straight sugar, fat and carbs. After that chocolate, especially chocolate with caramel or peanut butter cups.

Sounds like we are the same lol. Man, what a wonderful world it would be.

I think its total BS that bananas, apples, broccoli, kale, brussell sprouts, peaches, etc etc etc taste the way they do but are healthy and burgers, pizza, cake, candy, donuts, cookies etc etc taste the way they do and are so unhealthy. Its all backwards. I would eat that healthy food all day every day if it tasted like that unhealthy food does. It really isn't fair at all.

 

[LogGrad98]

My brother had bypass surgery in November. He has lost 140 pounds. Would like to lose another 25 or so. He looks great, but of course he has loose abdominal skin, so no tight shirts.

He decided on the surgery to ensure he sees his kids grow up. He has a liver disease that has greatly improved due to the weight loss.

He has days he regrets it because things make him sick, and he's still figuring that all out. But most of the time he is glad he did it, and doesn't seem to get sick as much as LogGrad's wife.

However, he can't give up Pepsi, even at his doctor's insistence. And he still will do dumb things like order a Big Mac (and throw most of it away) instead of ordering a small hamburger. He misses bad food too much. So I don't know what his long term outcome will be.

Yeah changing those habits are critical and the most difficult part. My wife works at an elementary school and there is a teacher the who had the same surgery my wife did. They talked a lot before my wife's surgery. The teacher lost close to 200 pounds after surgery but has gained nearly 100 of it back just 3 years in. And she kind of has the attitude that the surgery just doesn't work. But my wife observed that the teacher drinks several cans of regular coke every day, and if something like brings donuts in, she takes 3 or 4. And she eats McDonald's and other fast food several times per week. But she thinks the surgery didn't work. Isn't it @infection that has the sig that says "if you put your mind to it, you can believe anything"? lol

You definitely have to be in this for the long haul if you want the results to happen and to last, no doubt. My sister-in-law, besides getting the wrong surgery (lapband), also couldn't, or wouldn't, give up things like beer, pizza, ice cream, cake, fast food, etc. Consequently she lost a total of like 50 pounds then rapidly put it all back on again plus another like 30 or something then just had it reversed. She fought it for something like 3 years and finally just reversed it. But one thing that she considered a win for her is that it helped her understand her relationship with food better, and helped her see that she is happier fatter than she thought she could be before.

Interestingly since then she has lost about 50 pounds. Still she's a solid 150 above where she would want to be, but she's learned that she can live with that, and now tries to manage the health issues, not the weight, which has helped her actually lose weight.

 

[LogGrad98]

I know this is kind of opposite of the meaning of this thread but lets say in an amazing hypothetical that all the food that is bad for us becomes good for us. Like eating a cookie is similar to eating a banana. Eating a burger is like eating broccoli.
What is the food that you dont eat much of currently because its so unhealthy but you love it that you would now eat a ton of under this new hypothetical?

For it would be donuts and caramelo candy bars. I love donuts but probably only eat like 1 every 3 months or something. Same with caramelos. If all unhealthy food suddenly became healthy then i would eat a **** ton of those two things.

I am a caramelo junky. Could just mainline those things. And the funny thing is I'm not a big fan of plain milk chocolate nor caramel in general, but caramelo is some crack-**** right there. Cannot leave them alone, so I just never buy them.

But for me it would be no-bake cheesecake. Graham cracker crust. Cherry topping. Would eat that probably daily, or just constantly at every meal

 

[fishonjazz]

I am a caramelo junky. Could just mainline those things. And the funny thing is I'm not a big fan of plain milk chocolate nor caramel in general, but caramelo is some crack-**** right there. Cannot leave them alone, so I just never buy them.

But for me it would be no-bake cheesecake. Graham cracker crust. Cherry topping. Would eat that probably daily, or just constantly at every meal

That second one sounds interesting. Never had it. caramelo is probably my number 1 tasting food in the world.

 

[One Brow]

Its all backwards.

A long time ago, calories were hard to come by, and low-calorie plants were plentiful, so we developed a taste for calories. It's not backwards, just a relic.

 

[LogGrad98]

A long time ago, calories were hard to come by, and low-calorie plants were plentiful, so we developed a taste for calories. It's not backwards, just a relic.

This is also why in the Renaissance all the erotic paintings were of chubby girls. Because back then getting to eat the fattening foods and not work so much you just burned all your calories anyway was a sign of affluence. Just like today the good for you stuff is expensive and McDonald's and such are cheap as hell. So now rich people can afford the healthy food and the personal trainers and poor people can't, so the societal standard of beauty is reversed. It always follows the money.

 

[LogGrad98]

That second one sounds interesting. Never had it. caramelo is probably my number 1 tasting food in the world.

Easy peasy.

1 standard block of Philadelphia cream cheese
1 standard can of sweetened condensed milk
2-3 tablespoons of lemon juice, I like more so it's a bit more lemony
1 tablespoon corn starch
1 performed Graham cracker crust in a pie tin, like from Walmart. 9" I believe
1 large can of extra cherries cherry pie filling/topping. I use the extra large can because I have an unhealthy relationship with this thing.

Let the cream cheese come to room temp and beat it in a bowl with a hand mixer, or in a stand mixer, or whatever you have, until the cream cheese lightens up a little and gets a little loose.

Add all other ingredients except the cherries, they go on top at the end. Beat until very smooth.

Pour the mixture into the pie crust until just under the lip of the crust. You might have extra depending on how much you beat it, hence adding extra air and volume. Doesn't matter. Put the remainder on pancakes or dip apple slices in it.

Put the little plastic lid back on the pie crust with the cream cheese mixture in it. Refrigerator for at least 2 hours. If you go less it will be too loose to slice, longer and it gets firmer. My wife usually tries to hide it from me overnight. Yeah, good luck with that!

I eat a quarter of a pie at a time with a huge glob of cherries on top. My wife likes to put the cherries on the entire whole pie then cut it but I think different people like a lot of cherries, like me, and other people are wrong. So they can have less if they choose to be inferior.

Enjoy! And don't blame me.


Edit: my wife reminded me that we will take out a few tablespoons of the condensed milk and add in up to 1/4 cup sour cream and a couple tablespoons of confectioner's sugar, also this replaces the corn starch because confectioner's sugar helps to thicken and set it up. But you can do all kinds of things with the basic recipe. Add lime instead of lemon juice. My favorite is with fresh myer lemons if you can find them (we have a tree in our yard). You can experiment with different crusts and such as well. My wife like biscoff biscuits (I think that's the right spelling). She likes to add chopped pecans to the crust. I just like the graham cracker crust. Seriously you can do so much with it. Different toppings, like raspberry. Even swirling some of the topping into the cheesecake itself. Try the basic recipe first then **** around with it. It's still great just as-is.

 

[bigb]

The dad of my oldest son’s team mate had it done years ago. Still looks great. The doctor wouldn’t do it until he gave up beer. Took him a long time. The one thing he says he regrets is that his body will no longer allow him to eat steak (might be all beef, I can’t remember). He gags on it every time. Can’t get it down.

 

[LogGrad98]

The dad of my oldest son’s team mate had it done years ago. Still looks great. The doctor wouldn’t do it until he gave up beer. Took him a long time. The one thing he says he regrets is that his body will no longer allow him to eat steak (might be all beef, I can’t remember). He gags on it every time. Can’t get it down.

Funny thing my wife has experienced, and we have heard from most everyone in the Facebook group she joined for support, is that some things change dramatically. Like before her surgery my wife was a pastry and sweets fiend. It was her favorite thing in the world. Sweets means more like cake and pudding than candy. But after she can't stomach anything very sweet at all. She nearly gags on it.

She has no trouble with most meats, no different than before, but anything with nearly any kind of flour or cereal grains, like wheat, rye, oat, etc. causes pretty severe gastric distress.

From her Facebook group we've heard all kinds of things, salty foods, or grains, or sugary food, or high fiber foods in general to even fish or fruit can cause issues where before it was fine. Her doctor told her to expect her tastes to change and it's really true. Seems really weird. Her doctor said they don't know why it does that and why it isn't consistent, but he said nearly every patient he's had in 20+years had major changes like this seemingly at random.

Some things that seem to be more universal are soda, which they tell you never to drink again anyway due to bloating, grains and high fiber foods at least too much at once, and meats, all tend to cause issues, to a greater or lesser degree.

 

[Miggs]

My wife has lost 41 pounds since January 1st by limiting her calorie intake to ~700 calories a day. She sees a doctor every two weeks and they talk (therapy of sorts) and it’s out of pocket up front (we get reimbursed about 80%) so spending that money and having the bi-weekly visits makes her feel obligated to be accountable since she hates wasting money and knows she’ll be seeing the doctor.

 

[Gameface]

My wife has lost 41 pounds since January 1st by limiting her calorie intake to ~700 calories a day. She sees a doctor every two weeks and they talk (therapy of sorts) and it’s out of pocket up front (we get reimbursed about 80%) so spending that money and having the bi-weekly visits makes her feel obligated to be accountable since she hates wasting money and knows she’ll be seeing the doctor.

That's a small *** amount of calories!