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What’s the point of this season?

For me personally, the point of this season is waiting for Keyonte or waiting for a trade that adds a guard that complements Collins-Lauri-Kessler.

As far as trades are concerned, here's my rough ranking of assets I'd part with (in order of most like to part with to least like to part with):
1. THT
2. Sexton
3. Draft assets

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4. Olynyk
5. Clarkson

If we trade Olynyk and/or Clarkson, then it better be for a long-term piece (or a piece that has reasonably good odds being retained long-term). This team will get even uglier if either one of these dudes gets dealt.
 
ONE LOVE said:
I’m sitting here watching the Spurs already looking good to go with Wemby and I’m wondering if weren’t going to be good for 2-3 years, why didn’t we tank properly last year for a chance at Wemby?

We’re we too scared to upset Adam Silver?
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or OKC who fully committed to the tank and are absolutely loaded - i absolutely love their roster - you basically have a superstar in SGA and three legit young second options with Williams, Chet and Giddey - and a defensive stud who can get it on the offensive end at times too in Dort. add a couple young dudes who are full of potential in Dieng and Wallace - good grief. they did it right.

bottom line, the jazz were chicken **** last year, kept and signed too many veterans to begin the season and then hung on to them for too long. they should have had a top 5 pick at worst last year, tanked again this year, top 5 pick this year and then tanked again in 2025. it didn't seem like rocket science, but they ran out patience before they ever even got started and we seem to find ourselves in no man's land probably never ultimately landing a top 5 pick at any point in this so-called rebuild.
 
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Tremendous Upside said:
I hate to break it to you... but Dunn, THT, Key and Sexton (when he's playing like he did against the Kings) would be out of the rotation on most teams.

On this team they're allowed to run wild, and I suspect it's not because Hardy thinks it gives us the best chance to win.
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You can try and break it to me, but its still wrong as per your usual.
 
Bawse Dawg said:
Who’s the odd man out in OKC?

Giddey would be amazing for the Jazz
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i wondered about that (whether there would be an odd man out), but after last night, i think they make it work. Giddey is a do it all type, doesn't really need to put up 20+ ppg to be effective so, SGA can be the clear alpha while Giddey rebounds, sets people up and becomes an opportunistic scorer - and Chet and Williams just do their thing as second options. but yeah, Giddey would be amazing for the Jazz (and honestly anybody)
 
seattlejazzfan said:
i wondered about that (whether there would be an odd man out), but after last night, i think they make it work. Giddey is a do it all type, doesn't really need to put up 20+ ppg to be effective so, SGA can be the clear alpha while Giddey rebounds, sets people up and becomes an opportunistic scorer - and Chet and Williams just do their thing as second options. but yeah, Giddey would be amazing for the Jazz (and honestly anybody)
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Yea it was very wishful thinking and will never happen unfortunately. But man OKC has a surplus of the exact things we need
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seattlejazzfan said:
or OKC who fully committed to the tank and are absolutely loaded - i absolutely love their roster - you basically have a superstar in SGA and three legit young second options with Williams, Chet and Giddey - and a defensive stud who can get it on the offensive end at times too in Dort. add a couple young dudes who are full of potential in Dieng and Wallace - good grief. they did it right.

bottom line, the jazz were chicken **** last year, kept and signed too many veterans to begin the season and then hung on to them for too long. they should have had a top 5 pick at worst last year, tanked again this year, top 5 pick this year and then tanked again in 2025. it didn't seem like rocket science, but they ran out patience before they ever even got started and we seem to find ourselves in no man's land probably never ultimately landing a top 5 pick at any point in this so-called rebuild.
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I think that was the plan. Then lauri screwed it up. He wasn't supposed to be a great pickup.
 
fishonjazz said:
I think that was the plan. Then lauri screwed it up. He wasn't supposed to be a great pickup.
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i agree. sorta. even with the revelation that was Lauri, they could have surrounded him with young guys and either sat all those other vets on the bench or gotten rid of them right off the bat. but instead they committed to this veteran team for half the year and then decided at the end to tank and found themselves in the middle and the 9th pick (the 9th pick the coach has no intention of playing any time in the near future). it was a waste of a season in what should have been one where they committed 100% to a rebuild - and i they could have done that even with Lauri. a rotation of Lauri + Ochai, Kessler, Fontecchio, Bolmaro, Dok, NAW, Juzang and Gay wins you 20 games.
 
There are many many things we can learn about and do this season to make it positive one.

Competing for a title or even a top seed will not be among them, so I hope we drop that ASAP and start gathering some good data in other areas.
 
ONE LOVE said:
Serious question.

Are we trying to make the playoffs?

Or another ‘soft tank’ year?

What?

I mean if we’re:

- persisting with fringe NBA guards like THT, Sexton, Dunn, ..

- None of whose can actually play the point effectively.. turnovers galore…

- and ended up fielding a 4 guard line up who can’t get rebound to save their lives…

I feel like we’re wasting away Lauri’s best years.
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We should be in develop mode. We need to see if Sexton can grow into a starting level pg. develop Ochai into a starting level 3&D player. All the rookies should be in the rotation
 
It's the year of the gimmick and the hot mess. Get everyone on Jazz+ and get tickets and a free hat - gimmick!

Do a four guard lineup - gimmick and hot mess.

Talk about playing pairs so you are distracted about the quality of players individually - gimmick.

Acquire John Collins hyping how he will improve the team even though fit is a major issue - gimmick and hot mess.

Get blown out by the top tier teams - hot mess.

Blow out the bottom feeders to give the illusion that you are competing- gimmick.

Say we are pushing for the playoffs and get fan base excited while at the same time speak about optionality and be opportunistic and sit on your hands - gimmicks, hot mess and mixed messaging/strategy.

Say you are position less when it really means you don't have a high level point guard - gimmick and hot mess.
 
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