What grade would you give Ainge for his draft selections?

[The Midnight]

I was telling you guys this during draft season and summer league. I somehow had the info. If you didn’t have the info why did you call him Paul George?

We make our predictions with the caveat of limited information.

DA doesn't have that same excuse after $$$ spent on scouts, scouting trips, draft analysts and workouts.

 

[Thee Jazz Fan]

We make our predictions with the caveat of limited information.

DA doesn't have that same excuse after $$$ spent on scouts, scouting trips, draft analysts and workouts.

You posted highlights of PG In summer league swearing up and down he was the same damn player and criticized me and basically told me I was dumb. Have you no decency??

 

[stitches]

Kind of sucks that our highest picks have been the two most disappointing ones( still early on Cody and injury-related on Hendricks), but this has to matter. I was thinking B initially but IMO you just have to hit on the highest picks much better than we have. I'd probably give it a C/C+ thereabout.

 

[The Midnight]

You posted highlights of PG In summer league swearing up and down he was the same damn player and criticized me and basically told me I was dumb. Have you no decency??

Do you not understand what “caveat” means?

 

[LogGrad98]

You posted highlights of PG In summer league swearing up and down he was the same damn player and criticized me and basically told me I was dumb. Have you no decency??

Decency? The dude dates a jr high school chick and he's 50. What do you think?

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Cody Williams is such a negative, I don't know how you can give any grade higher than a D if Williams is involved. He is not just an F he is a zero. I would trade him, if anyone would trade for him. His shot is just broken.

Cody shot over 40% for nearly a month to end the season. Give him time.

Having said that, I have never thought Ainge was an elite drafter. He is great at picking up role players through the draft. Jaylen Brown and Tatum were both very high picks so I am hopeful that we get it done with a top 5 pick or movement.

Collier and Fillipowski were late hits.

Taylor looked great to begin the season before Watergate.

I would give Ainge a B- so far. A true drafting elite would make the tough trade for a difference maker or would find them later in the draft like the Heat always seem to do.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

B- Had he taken Matas instead of Cody I would give him an A. Its a tough one though because a much better wing was selected right after the wing you took who looks tragic. Basically he did good work but flunked the final so ends up with a okayish grade.

Matas was my pick. I said Cody will be compared to Matas and I hoped I would be wrong.

Still, if Cody hits his ceiling, he could be great. He just has to go up 12 other ceilings to get there.

 

[The Jazz Wonderbra]

Do you not understand what “caveat” means?

Here's a caveat for you...

 

[Jaanipoeg]

Does anyone have any comps for a player that was super raw lottery pick and arguably one of the worst minutes-receiving players who still ended up becoming something?

I don't need star upside, but Paul George and Jimmy Butler had quieter rookie seasons, but any player who was a disaster class and grew into a starter caliber player?

 

[HadAnEffectHere]

Does anyone have any comps for a player that was super raw lottery pick and arguably one of the worst minutes-receiving players who still ended up becoming something?

I don't need star upside, but Paul George and Jimmy Butler had quieter rookie seasons, but any player who was a disaster class and grew into a starter caliber player?

There are lots of guys with underwhelming rookie seasons (Fox, Bam, Jaylen Brown, etc), but the only recent (meaning the last 20 years) guys I've seen that started just HORRENDOUS and turned into something are

1. Andrew Bynum
2. Sabonis
3. Monk
4. Kris Dunn
5. Thabo

There are caveats to each of these guys other than Sabonis and Thabo though

Bynum: Entered the league at 17 years old, youngest player ever
Monk: Might have been battling a drug addiction at this time?
Kris Dunn: Flushed out of the league and needed multiple years to make it back.

Sabonis is the clearest case of a guy just looking like one of the worst players in the NBA as a rookie and then turning it around and becoming a star though.

 

[fishonjazz]

If I'm grading his picks at the time of the drafts then I go with B+

If I use hindsight then I'm not sure I actually covet anyone he has drafted for the Jazz.

Like if I'm a playoff team that needs another good player to become a contender then I don't want any player that Ainge has drafted to add to my team.

That's not good. I give a C- or D+ based when using hindsight.

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[The Jazz Wonderbra]

There are lots of guys with underwhelming rookie seasons (Fox, Bam, Jaylen Brown, etc), but the only recent (meaning the last 20 years) guys I've seen that started just HORRENDOUS and turned into something are

1. Andrew Bynum
2. Sabonis
3. Monk
4. Kris Dunn
5. Thabo

There are caveats to each of these guys other than Sabonis and Thabo though

Bynum: Entered the league at 17 years old, youngest player ever
Monk: Might have been battling a drug addiction at this time?
Kris Dunn: Flushed out of the league and needed multiple years to make it back.

Sabonis is the clearest case of a guy just looking like one of the worst players in the NBA as a rookie and then turning it around and becoming a star though.

Livingston was an interesting case. Steph Curry had major weaknesses and was a very meh player until he got healthy.

There are plenty of guys who looked flawed but improved.