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What if we traded Andrei Kirilenko for Boris Diaw last offseason?

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SalmonHobo said:
Dalamon, holy ****, you seem nice enough but this thread is ****ing God awful. I say that as constructive criticism. Seriously, never start another pointless, what if Tom Selleck had played Indy in Raiders of the Lost Ark threads. ****ing pure refuse.
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Then dont open it if it doesnt interest you, hack :D I just thought Id remind us of a trade proposal, and wed think about something Non Kanter related for a change of pace. Re-reading countless threads about him and the lockout has gotten awfully stale, plus Diaw has been playing well for France lately. This forum would be much more boring if we all followed a non-sepculateive rhetoric on which threads should be concepted and not.
 
Verlin said:
I was following you until here...kanter and some unknown pick for Eric Gordon is a steal for whomever gets Gordon any day of the week. Gordon is a player who has gotten better each year and if not for an injury would have been an all star. Sure he is undersized, but he is one of the most dynamic players in the league.
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I love Gordon as well, but I guess I'm higher on Kanter than you. I honestly think he'll be a 20-10 guy by his 4th season. And have you seen 2012 mock drafts? Even if we only end up getting the 12th pick from Golden State, that will get us a guy like Terrence Jones or Austin Rivers. Or if it turns out to be the 8th pick, we'll have a shot at Michael Gilchrist or Quincy Miller.
 
spycam1 said:
I love Gordon as well, but I guess I'm higher on Kanter than you. I honestly think he'll be a 20-10 guy by his 4th season. And have you seen 2012 mock drafts? Even if we only end up getting the 12th pick from Golden State, that will get us a guy like Terrence Jones or Austin Rivers. Or if it turns out to be the 8th pick, we'll have a shot at Michael Gilchrist or Quincy Miller.
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That Minnesota pick could realistically be the #1 in easily the most loaded draft since '08 (or possibly earlier). And who knows, the Jazz might've been able to get the Clippers' 2011 unprotected that they gave to Cleveland as well.
 
dalamon said:
Should we have pulled the trigger, or was it a rip-off? Do you think it would have had any sort of different effect? Would we have made the playoffs? Would we have traded Deron? Would we be better, worse? I've always thought of him as a player that would excel in the Flex-Offense, seeing as hes one of the most passive SF/PFs in the NBA, similarily to Kirilenko.

ESPN: The trade would send the trade-demanding Anthony to New Jersey; with Kirilenko, Nets rookie Derrick Favors and multiple first-round picks going to Denver; N.J.'s Devin Harris heading to Charlotte; and Utah receiving Diaw, Ross and luxury-tax relief. Multiple reports also listed New Jersey's Jarvis Hayes and Charlotte's DJ Augustin as being potential pieces in the deal.

Discuss.
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Great deal for Denver. Decent deal for NJ. Okay deal for Charlotte. Nothing really, but a cost-saving deal for Utah.

When evaluating the Deron Williams trade, people need to understand that the Jazz were at a crossroads and needed to rebuild the entire team, not just tweak a position or two and save a few bucks. If the Jazz thought they could attract a major free agent to pair with D.Will, then maybe trading AK for expiring deals and saving money makes sense. But there isn't a FA that will change the Jazz's fortunes, and if you look at the larger strategy, the Jazz are rebuilding the entire roster. By this time next year, the Jazz will likely have six lottery picks, young players that complement one another, all acquired within the space of 18 months. Plus they have Jefferson, Millsap, Harris, Miles and Okur's expiring deal as trade chips. No one is set up better for the longer term than the Jazz, except OKC, maybe the Clippers, and the teams that get Drummond and Davis in next year's draft.
 
NUMBERICA said:
That Minnesota pick could realistically be the #1 in easily the most loaded draft since '08 (or possibly earlier). And who knows, the Jazz might've been able to get the Clippers' 2011 unprotected that they gave to Cleveland as well.
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True, and the Clippers are going to get a stud to pair with Griffin and Gordon, but I'd bet a good amount of money it won't be the #1 pick (or they at least they won't have the best chance in the lottery). I'm guessing the Raptors, Pistons, Bobcats, and Cavs all have worse records than the T-Wolves this year.

But let's drop this hypothetical debate. I think we're all very happy with what we got from New Jersey.
 
I really think Utah might have the pieces to make a playoff run, if everybody stays healthy and we have a season. I really liked the idea I read about Trying to trade Okur for Calderon, resign AK and Fez (big body, cheap insurance)

Calderon, Harris
Hayward, Burk
Ak, Miles
Favors, Millsap
Jefferson, Kanter

With Fez, Bell, and maybe Sebastin Telfer be 3rd string. Seriously how could that team not make the playoffs?
 
and I'm happy with how the Dwill trade worked out. I just can't wait tell for the season to start (please be a season) then draft so Utah can draft the PG of the future, to grow with Burk, Hayward, Favors, Kanter.
 
Jazzfanz said:
I really think Utah might have the pieces to make a playoff run, if everybody stays healthy and we have a season. I really liked the idea I read about Trying to trade Okur for Calderon, resign AK and Fez (big body, cheap insurance)

Calderon, Harris
Hayward, Burk
Ak, Miles
Favors, Millsap
Jefferson, Kanter

With Fez, Bell, and maybe Sebastin Telfer be 3rd string. Seriously how could that team not make the playoffs?
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So we can spend ~9 million next season on our Backup PG?

I thank God everyday that Kevin O'Connor is our General Manager.
 
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