What PG do you want the jazz to go get?

[Doublea]

Say whaa?

Yeah I didn't realize he's 27, that makes him even better for this team!

 

[Miggs]

It's simple. Offer Conley the max. If we snag him, we have a legit shot to go to the finals next year. And he's still just 27.3 years of age to the numbnut who said he's kind of old.

Do this and worry about everyone else later. We'll find a way to keep everyone if we have to. I believe that.

I wanna get this straight.

Hayward can opt out in 2016 or 2017?

We have a team option for Gobert for next season and therefore could re-up him in 2017, right? When can we offer him an extension? Any chance he'd take a 4 year, 60M one now?

Favors would have to be re-upped in 2018.

Burks (who cares really) in 2019.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I wanna get this straight.

Hayward can opt out in 2016 or 2017?

We have a team option for Gobert for next season and therefore could re-up him in 2017, right? When can we offer him an extension? Any chance he'd take a 4 year, 60M one now?

Favors would have to be re-upped in 2018.

Burks (who cares really) in 2019.

Wow, quoting yourself. That's novel.

Are you kidding...Gobert for $15M? If he signs for $25M/per that's going to be a bargain. The only way he could get an early contract is if the Jazz "Boozer-ed" him - i.e. they make him an UFA by not picking up his option. Like that will ever happen.

Hayward can opt out in 2 years.

Signing another FA to a 4 year max has minimal implications for the next two seasons. It's years 3 and 4 that would be problematic. I think it also destroys ANY chance we may have of Hayward, Favors or Gobert accepting less to keep the team together. DL would set the bar at $27M for a very good, but certainly not superstar player. And if I were any of those three, I'd then say, "hey, I'm better than Conley, so pay me more."

 

[Miggs]

Wow, quoting yourself. That's novel.

Are you kidding...Gobert for $15M? If he signs for $25M/per that's going to be a bargain. The only way he could get an early contract is if the Jazz "Boozer-ed" him - i.e. they make him an UFA by not picking up his option. Like that will ever happen.

Hayward can opt out in 2 years.

Signing another FA to a 4 year max has minimal implications for the next two seasons. It's years 3 and 4 that would be problematic. I think it also destroys ANY chance we may have of Hayward, Favors or Gobert accepting less to keep the team together. DL would set the bar at $27M for a very good, but certainly not superstar player. And if I were any of those three, I'd then say, "hey, I'm better than Conley, so pay me more."

But Gobert is so young, what's the most he can get even at the max?

 

[Doublea]

Wow, quoting yourself. That's novel.

Are you kidding...Gobert for $15M? If he signs for $25M/per that's going to be a bargain. The only way he could get an early contract is if the Jazz "Boozer-ed" him - i.e. they make him an UFA by not picking up his option. Like that will ever happen.

Hayward can opt out in 2 years.

Signing another FA to a 4 year max has minimal implications for the next two seasons. It's years 3 and 4 that would be problematic. I think it also destroys ANY chance we may have of Hayward, Favors or Gobert accepting less to keep the team together. DL would set the bar at $27M for a very good, but certainly not superstar player. And if I were any of those three, I'd then say, "hey, I'm better than Conley, so pay me more."

I wonder if ownership would be willing to pay the tax to keep our players.

 

[Stifle Tower]

But Gobert is so young, what's the most he can get even at the max?

Depends on what he does over the next couple of seasons.

A first round draft pick who completed all four years of his rookie scale contract, or a second round draft pick or an undrafted player who has four years of service, is eligible to receive a higher maximum salary if he meets certain criteria, called the "5th Year 30% Max" criteria:

• Named to the All-NBA First, Second or Third team at least twice
• Voted as a starter in the All-Star game at least twice
• Named the NBA Most Valuable Player at least once

Anthony Davis just signed an estimated 5 yr/$145M extension
If Rudy is in contention for DPOY, he probably makes the all-NBA third team (at least). But even if doesn't get the 30% deal, he'd be eligible for 25% of BRI. Cap will probably be around $100M when he comes up for his non-rookie deal. So count on $25M-$30M. And the same for Hayward. He'll be eligible for 30% due to length of time in the league.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I wonder if ownership would be willing to pay the tax to keep our players.

Maybe for one season. This CBA makes it very expensive to be a repeat offender.

 

[karl malone]

As for Bradley, yes, it would be a good fit. But dealing with Ainge is like dealing with the devil. He has a reputation for wanting way more than what a player is worth. I don't see a Utah/Boston deal ever happening because DL has a reputation for walking away if the price is too high. But you never know. Personally, if the Jazz are in good shape at the deadline (i.e. in solid playoff position), I'd put top-3 protection on the pick (just in case) and offer Ainge our 2016 1st rounder and a boatload of 2nd's and see if he bites.

I agree. DL & Ainge probably aren't the best match as far as trading partners due to the fact that both are known to be tough negotiatiors, but the reason I see this as a possibility is because Ainge just spent two 1st rd picks on Guards (one of which is somewhat similar to Bradley- Rozier), which is already the team's greatest area of strength with Thomas, Smart, & the aforementioned Bradley. Also, Smart & Bradley are somewhat redundantn, & I could see Ainge preferring Smart due to the fact that he is younger & still on his rookie contract. BOS is said to be in the market for a defensive big, & while we may not be able to offer that in return, we would be able to add to their immense collection of draft picks (as you suggested) which would give them more ammunition to go out & make a deal to acquire one.

While I agree that a deal is more likely to come to fruition at the trade deadline (as Ainge has aspirations to contend this season & would likely only trade a Guard if it is apparent that at least one of Rozier/Hunter are ready to contribute now), if the pick looks destined for the late teens-early twenties, I could see Ainge demanding more in return (even with an excessive amount of 2nd rd picks thrown in). I also question our ability to stay in the playoff race in the Western Conference without an upgrade at PG (unless Neto turns out to be a good defender, which I'm not confident will be the case).

If Ainge would accept, I would trade this year's unprotected 1st (as I'm confident we would be a playoff caliber team with Bradley's addition) as well as the OKC 1st (& multiple 2nd rd picks). While that would undoubtedly be an overpay, I see it being well worth it as this roster does not need another late-lottery caliber talent (especially in a weak draft class) & the fact that the trade would allow our team to not only maintain it's elite defense but upgrade offensively (at the PG position) would likely propel us to a top 5-6 seed would be an invaluable 1st step towards retaining our core players & establishing a potential long-term championship contender. It may not be an option, but if it is, we should aggressively pursuit it.

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

Also, I'm not scared of a guy that's on the tail-end of his prime or tail-end of his career. If they give us a couple of good years, I'm not going to turn that down if I can't get more ideal production. It gives the Jazz time and options to figure out what the hell they're doing at the position and right now it looks bad.

 

[fishonjazz]

Burks (who cares really) in 2019.

Pump your brakes

 

[Doublea]

I would definitely support an Avery Bradley trade.

 

[NUMBERICA]

The Heat have tried to trade Chris Andersen and Mario Chalmers to anyone who would have them, per sources around the league,

If true... then why not grab Chalmers? I don't really get it. Seems like a perfect fit, even (especially?) if, yeah, the guy's not a star.