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What shouldve been done at the beginning of this season...

It amazes me how we are still in Utah the way we've stayed friendly with personnel. If Greg Miller owned a restaurant instead of a car dealerahip, he'd have long been out of business because all of the **** employees he hired would never lose a job.

Wtf ever happened to the term, "a business is a business".
 
Games were easier to lose toward the earlier part of the season. It's funny that apparently we're stepping up the tank, or so I hear. Do we not realize the an L at the beginning of the season is just a valuable as an L now, only easier to obtain? It's a good thing we got those first 15 in the bag so quick.
 
offer hornaceck a 2014-2015 head coaching job.

and do whatever to tank and develop this year meaning buy out every single vet
 
The Fresh Prince said:
It amazes me how we are still in Utah the way we've stayed friendly with personnel. If Greg Miller owned a restaurant instead of a car dealerahip, he'd have long been out of business because all of the **** employees he hired would never lose a job.

Wtf ever happened to the term, "a business is a business".
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Guaranteed contracts are guaranteed contracts though. A business operating like a business wouldn't pay people to not do a job.
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Guaranteed contracts are guaranteed contracts though. A business operating like a business wouldn't pay people to not do a job.
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Well, I don't think there are universal answers for what a business that operates like a business would do, but I can't help but imagine that any business with sense that's operating for a profit would realize that it costs less in the long run to get rid of something or someone that will compromise the future of the company or continue to cost more money, even if that means having to spend a little money (in riddance) to save money. Now, whether the vets Dutch refers to fit the criteria as outlined above is another issue.
 
infection said:
Well, I don't think there are universal answers for what a business that operates like a business would do, but I can't help but imagine that any business with sense that's operating for a profit would realize that it costs less in the long run to get rid of something or someone that will compromise the future of the company or continue to cost more money, even if that means having to spend a little money (in riddance) to save money. Now, whether the vets Dutch refers to fit the criteria as outlined above is another issue.
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I've said this before, but it makes no sense to get rid of Ty this year. The time to get rid of Ty was last year, after the AS break and promote Horny to HC. You have to pay Ty anyways, he sucks as a coach, and no good coach is going to sign with a train wreck of a team like Utah...unless they have a Parker/Wiggins/Embiid. So, you won't get a good coach, you'd have to pay him for multiple years, on top of paying Corbin for this year, with the chance that after one year, you dump the new coach for an even better coach.
 
franklin said:
Horn axel would suck with this squad. It's a bad match which is probably why the DL told him to coach elsewhere.
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Lawls. You troll too hard. It makes it to challenging to decipher the here and there posts where you're actually stating something you believe.
 
infection said:
Lawls. You troll too hard. It makes it to challenging to decipher the here and there posts where you're actually stating something you believe.
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Hornacek is a run and gun style coach. You really think that would work here or just trying to pester me?
 
infection said:
Well, I don't think there are universal answers for what a business that operates like a business would do, but I can't help but imagine that any business with sense that's operating for a profit would realize that it costs less in the long run to get rid of something or someone that will compromise the future of the company or continue to cost more money, even if that means having to spend a little money (in riddance) to save money. Now, whether the vets Dutch refers to fit the criteria as outlined above is another issue.
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Will firing a coach and promoting an assistant to interim coach really increase ticket sales? How much will that coach be able to do mid-season to improve the team? You still have to pay a guy to not work, which is bad business. It's not paying a little to get rid of them, it's paying them the exact amount as it would be to have them stay.
 
franklin said:
Hornacek is a run and gun style coach. You really think that would work here or just trying to pester me?
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I don't know why it wouldn't. Hayward and burks would both thrive in transition. Marvins outside shot would work well with what horny likes to do. Favors struggles offensively, but I think he would be good at running and dunking. Trey really couldn't do any worse than he is currently doing. Evans on the wing during a fast break for lobs and dunks seems like it would be good. Plus most of the team is young and athletic.

Also we have one of the worst defenses in the league right now..... Maybe if we used the altitude to our advantage and just run every chance we get along with taking shots early in the shot clock, then we would tire teams out and hide our bad defense.

Worst case scenario, it doesn't work and we lose a few more games and get a better draft pick.
This SHOULD be the year to experiment with things but instead we just keep our super slow pace (I believe we are 29th in the league in pace of play) even though we are near the bottom of the league record wise. Maybe corbin really is tanking
 
Cyrone Torbin said:
Will firing a coach and promoting an assistant to interim coach really increase ticket sales? How much will that coach be able to do mid-season to improve the team? You still have to pay a guy to not work, which is bad business. It's not paying a little to get rid of them, it's paying them the exact amount as it would be to have them stay.
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Here's a better example. If it doesn't make sense, then certainly you should avoid going into business. If you're the Knicks and Isaiah Thomas and/or Scott Layden is your GM, does it make enter financial sense to fire him or let him continue his job, as you'll still be paying for him anyway? Do you get what you paid for or do you eat the money by firing him?
 
franklin said:
Hornacek is a run and gun style coach. You really think that would work here or just trying to pester me?
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Phil Johnson said in the Atlanta post game show: "They (Jazz) really are a better team when they are running and pushing the ball, get up the floor, run the floor..." But I guess I should take your word over an ex-NBA Coach of the Year...
 
fishonjazz said:
I don't know why it wouldn't.
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They tried against the worst team in the league and ended up down two at halftime. That Phili game was so fast paced that even my wife, who knows nothing about bball and rarely watches five minutes of it with me, commented on how sloppy the play was.

IMO you need better spot up three point shooting to run correctly. If there isn't a quick basket then set up around the arc fast and drive and dish -- kind of like the Jazz already do in most their sets but with the advantage of having a defense on its heels.

I'd like to say that I want to watch them run Nellie Ball, but that Phili first half was ugly to watch.
 
franklin said:
They tried against the worst team in the league and ended up down two at halftime. That Phili game was so fast paced that even my wife, who knows nothing about bball and rarely watches five minutes of it with me, commented on how sloppy the play was.

IMO you need better spot up three point shooting to run correctly. If there isn't a quick basket then set up around the arc fast and drive and dish -- kind of like the Jazz already do in most their sets but with the advantage of having a defense on its heels.

I'd like to say that I want to watch them run Nellie Ball, but that Phili first half was ugly to watch.
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Well if it didnt work during one half of a game during a stretch of the season when the jazz are really struggling then obviously that proves that it can never work.

So ya, continue to play with a super slow pace and watch hayward, trey, and favors excel on offense like they have so far this season
 
fishonjazz said:
Well if it didnt work during one half of a game during a stretch of the season when the jazz are really struggling then obviously that proves that it can never work.

So ya, continue to play with a super slow pace and watch hayward, trey, and favors excel on offense like they have so far this season
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I was giving an opinion, not proof.

There's a wide range between no fast break and all fast break. Every team finds their own balance. Good teams excel at either end of the spectrum, while poorer teams like the Jazz are mediocre at both.




You seem to want change for change's sake and with that I agree. Like I said, I'd like to say I want Nellie Ball, but...
 
franklin said:
I was giving an opinion, not proof.

There's a wide range between no fast break and all fast break. Every team finds their own balance. Good teams excel at either end of the spectrum, while poorer teams like the Jazz are mediocre at both.




You seem to want change for change's sake and with that I agree. Like I said, I'd like to say I want Nellie Ball, but...
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Solid post
 
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