What Will You Do If Dl Resigns Ty???

[Stifle Tower]

Blaming Ty for the Jazz losing after blowing up the team mid-season is possibly the most illogical thing I've read here.

Where am I blaming him? I'm saying give him credit for making the playoffs. It was a difficult situation. But really, Harris and Favors came on board and replaced an injured Deron. I wouldn't call that "blowing up" the team. I doubt they would have made the playoffs, but a complete collapse shouldn't have happened. Ty had been an assistant for AGES under Sloan. He was preparing to be a head coach. There are a handful of other situations where a coach is fired, the assistant takes over and the team starts playing better. Didn't happen; Ty was unable to rally the team in what could have been a defining moment.

By all accounts, Corbin is a great assistant. The same thing happens in the NFL; there are amazing offensive and defensive coordinators who get a head coaching job and are overwhelmed. They get fired and go back to being coordinators and do a helluva job. Best of luck to Ty moving forward; I hope he gets on with another team as a #1 assistant. But he and his staff (Lowe and Sanders) really haven't made any kind of mark. You don't look at the Jazz and say, "wow, I really see some great defense being played," or "look at the efficient offense the Jazz are now playing."

 

[Stifle Tower]

I called 34 wins before the season started. Looks like I had more faith in Ty than most.

I think I was in that range, too, before the injury to Trey. I said the Jazz had an outside shot at a .500 record. RJ has been a surprise, Hayward a disappointment; Burke a discovery and Kanter an enigma.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Nobody had the Jazz playing .500 basketball this year. Ty is a big part of this clear outperformance, but like Sloan he'll never receive recognition for winning more than seems possible.

again with what horny is doing with phx.

i cant see why he could not atleast do that with utah.


but thats just like my opinion bro

 

[Stifle Tower]

My problem with Ty isn't so much the W/L record. It's all about direction and purpose. If someone could please explain to me what Ty is implementing on offense and defense, I'd be grateful. With Sloan you saw a system. It was the P&R, the UCLA cuts. His defense was all about funneling guys inside. That defensive system is, of course, outdated in today's NBA. But my point is, you could spot a Jerry Sloan offense and defense. Maybe I'm just not knowledgeable enough, but I don't see a clear plan by Ty.

 

[fishonjazz]

Since games which include injuries magically don't count, it's only fair to return the favor and remove the following:

win vs. Phoenix (Bledsoe, Okafor, Barbosa)
win vs. Lakers (Kobe, Gasol, Young, Farmar)
win vs. Kings (Cousins, Gay)
win vs. Nuggets (Miller, Galinari, McGee, Robinson)
win vs. OKC (Ibaka)

Continuing that correction and applying it to all of the Jazz' games, I've got them with a record of 3 wins and 6 losses overall this season in "real" games. That's about 33%, which is close to 42-44%, which -- by this point -- we all know is essentially 50%. And since numbers within 6 to 8 percent of each other are basically the same, let's just call it what it is and say that the Jazz are -- for all intents and purposes -- a .580 team. That's good enough for 3rd place (in the East).

Please, anyone with the balls to step up and say they predicted before this season that the Jazz would be in 3rd place in March, go ahead and do so. And I'll call you a liar.

Suck it, haters.

Post of the week.
Good stuff bordey lol.
repped

 

[fishonjazz]

My problem with Ty isn't so much the W/L record. It's all about direction and purpose. If someone could please explain to me what Ty is implementing on offense and defense, I'd be grateful. With Sloan you saw a system. It was the P&R, the UCLA cuts. His defense was all about funneling guys inside. That defensive system is, of course, outdated in today's NBA. But my point is, you could spot a Jerry Sloan offense and defense. Maybe I'm just not knowledgeable enough, but I don't see a clear plan by Ty.

Sounds like you are asking the question "whats ty corbins 'calling card'?"
Answer: Really nice suits

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

No. He's counting games that we're playing .500. I don't know why this is so hard to understand. Just man up and give Ty some ******* credit. Few coaches could lead this squad to play .500 ball the way Ty has.

If you count only the games we win, Ty has us winning 100%!

 

[DutchJazzer]

Ty isn't as bad as Jazzfanz says he is.



With that said, he isn't a top 5 coach in this league-- and seeing as we already have the cards stacked against us (due to small market), we NEED a well-coached team to thrive. Look at Indiana, San Antonio, and Utah of years passed: all were impacted by coaching.

I agree with frank in that coaching alone doesn't make a HUGE impact on the performances of a team, but that isn't a point.

As a small market team, we need every advantage we get.

This offseason, is Tyrone Corbin the best coach we can get? If the Jazz FO thinks so, then power to then. Personally, I have my doubts.

i think it does.
Popovich great example. loo at his big 3 they are a former shell of them self missing a gazilion games.

 

[Fishsticks]

It's jus one game.
It's just one season.
It's just one decade.
It's just one city.
It's just one franchise.
It's just one league.

 

[franklin]

Ty isn't as bad as Jazzfanz says he is.



With that said, he isn't a top 5 coach in this league-- and seeing as we already have the cards stacked against us (due to small market), we NEED a well-coached team to thrive. Look at Indiana, San Antonio, and Utah of years passed: all were impacted by coaching.

I agree with frank in that coaching alone doesn't make a HUGE impact on the performances of a team, but that isn't a point.

As a small market team, we need every advantage we get.

This offseason, is Tyrone Corbin the best coach we can get? If the Jazz FO thinks so, then power to then. Personally, I have my doubts.

Ty is quite possibly the very best coach at wringing the most out of sub-par players in a low post system. The stats at the end of last season showed us that much. I'm not sure he can excel implementing other systems, but I do think the role Hayward played early in the season would make him look like a genius if Jabari were in it. It's perfect for a good scoring small forward.

I wish I could pick DL's mind on the defensive end. I can't tell if Ty can't get these guys to play or if the players just aren't smart enough to defend well. Last I heard DL on the radio he indicated the latter by saying it's his job to go out and get players who are willing to defend. It seemed like an indictment of the current group more than the system.

 

[franklin]

I also hate Corbin's double-high post setup because I can't figure out wtf he's trying to do with Favors taking the entry pass so far away from the elbow. He can't score from there and they aren't getting good passes. Does anyone have a clue?

 

[Deleted member 848]

Ty is quite possibly the very best coach at wringing the most out of sub-par players in a low post system. The stats at the end of last season showed us that much. I'm not sure he can excel implementing other systems, but I do think the role Hayward played early in the season would make him look like a genius if Jabari were in it. It's perfect for a good scoring small forward.

I wish I could pick DL's mind on the defensive end. I can't tell if Ty can't get these guys to play or if the players just aren't smart enough to defend well. Last I heard DL on the radio he indicated the latter by saying it's his job to go out and get players who are willing to defend. It seemed like an indictment of the current group more than the system.

The defense is both a system problem and a personnel problem. I wouldn't call a team with Favors, Marv, and Hayward as destined for a bottom 5 defense year in/year out. People like Zach Lowe have already pointed out Corbin's perplexing defensive systems.