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What's the Next Move?

Eddie Zero said:
It is possible that Sexton and the Finnisher make it difficult for Danny's obvious blatant tank trade, we just witnessed, to have as much success as he hopes it will. But gm's can force the coach to use g leaguers and rest the others in the name of development to get bad fast. I think this ends up either being a massive joke of a trade, and the Jazz still make the play in even if they lose it they are late lottery, even without those traded away helping the win column, or they rest the Finnisher Kessler etc so much to get a top pick that they barely win 8 more games. Meanwhile the Wolves pick for us probably got worse by subtraction getting rid of Dlo but they also got better adding a much smarter floor general to feed the post that has been getting the shaft all season there.
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I will just ask this. If Danny was blatantly tanking.. why did he keep both Lauri and JC.. our two main architects for the games we have won?

However I think the main point of the move wasnt to tank (that is debatable though). It was to add value using the pieces that were not part of the future..and to force Hardy to throw some guys into the fire more.

Beasley is out. 14 FGA and 25 MIN per game to better use. (Lauri? JC? Ochai?)

Vando is out. More minutes for Kessler.

Conley is out. More minutes + starter role to Sexton. Remove the safety net, time to grow up. Push Lauri to become the team leader by sending out the previous one.

Are all those not future-looking moves?
 
HermanG said:
I will just ask this. If Danny was blatantly tanking.. why did he keep both Lauri and JC.. our two main architects for the games we have won?

However I think the main point of the move wasnt to tank (that is debatable though). It was to add value using the pieces that were not part of the future..and to force Hardy to throw some guys into the fire more.

Beasley is out. 14 FGA and 25 MIN per game to better use. (Lauri? JC? Ochai?)

Vando is out. More minutes for Kessler.

Conley is out. More minutes + starter role to Sexton. Remove the safety net, time to grow up. Push Lauri to become the team leader by sending out the previous one.

Are all those not future-looking moves?
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I still think Hardy is going to employ minute as a motivation tool. So Kessler still might have games where he is only getting 20 minutes because he isnt doing something Hardy wants of him, same with Sexton/Ochai.
 
HermanG said:
I will just ask this. If Danny was blatantly tanking.. why did he keep both Lauri and JC.. our two main architects for the games we have won?

However I think the main point of the move wasnt to tank (that is debatable though). It was to add value using the pieces that were not part of the future..and to force Hardy to throw some guys into the fire more.

Beasley is out. 14 FGA and 25 MIN per game to better use. (Lauri? JC? Ochai?)

Vando is out. More minutes for Kessler.

Conley is out. More minutes + starter role to Sexton. Remove the safety net, time to grow up. Push Lauri to become the team leader by sending out the previous one.

Are all those not future-looking moves?
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As a rebuilding team why would you even consider trading away a 25 year old that's emerging as a potential superstar?

Don't think they wanted to trade JC just to trade him, would also imagine we didn't get any great offers because he can opt out at the end of the year.

This move was definitely made to tank the rest of the season, getting some value for our veterans that weren't in our long term plans and freeing up minutes for the young guys are just bonuses.
 
Here's another thing: IF Sexton is actually good, this trade shouldnt make us that much worse.

Still think you had to deal Clarkson to truly be bad enough to get past the Indys/Orlandos.

So on one hand I hope Sexton fails so the team can lose more, but I also hope he is good enough to elevate the team and have actual value as a starting PG.
 
Well at this point the next move will have to be to watch the buyout market and see if anything cuts that could be useful.

After that I see some 10-day contracts coming the Jazz way.

I am really curious as to what the Jazz will do with Clarkson. Do they meet his money demands? Can they work a sign and trade? Or are they just going to let him walk?

KO is next up. Honestly, I do not see the Jazz picking up his contract next summer. Only taking a 3 million hit.

If the Jazz does not sign Clarkson (I do not think they should) and do not pick up KO they will be looking at $40 million in cap space. (Assuming THT, Gay and Jones pick up their options)

Here are some free agents that come close to our time line (Not a lot there)

J.D. Davison
Kenneth Lofton Jr.
Moussa Diabate
Theo Maledon
RJ Hampton
Charles Bassey
Darius Bazley
Jaxson Hayes
Kessler Edwards
Miles McBride
Ron Harper Jr.
Coby White
Ayo Dosunmu
Tre Jones
Romeo Langford
Keldon Johnson
Moses Brown
AJ Green
Cam Reddish
Naz Reid
Neemias Queta
Troy Brown Jr.
Paul Reed
Jaylen Nowell
Kevin Knox
Luka Garza
Lonnie Walker IV
Grant Williams
Xavier Tillman
Nickeil Alexander-Walker
PJ Washington
Josh Okogie
Hamidou Diallo
Frank Ntilikina
Omer Yurtseven
Trent Forrest
Herbert Jones
Austin Reaves
Rui Hachimura
Anthony Lamb
Jalen McDaniels
Nick Richards
Dennis Smith Jr.
Naji Marshall
Mfiondu Kabengele
Thomas Bryant
Ty Jerome
Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk
Terence Davis
Matt Ryan
Admiral Schofield
Moritz Wagner
Matisse Thybulle
Mamadi Diakite
Drew Eubanks
Derrick Jones Jr.
Dylan Windler
Aaron Holiday
Shake Milton
Donte DiVincenzo
Gabe Vincent
Justise Winslow
Max Strus
Cameron Johnson
Dillon Brooks
Keita Bates-Diop
Jock Landale
Kelly Oubre Jr.
Jakob Poeltl
Christian Wood
Juancho Hernangomez
Jevon Carter
Kendrick Nunn
Kristaps Porzingis
Jevon Carter
Justin Jackson
Kyle Kuzma
Yuta Watanabe
Jerami Grant
Juan Toscano-Anderson
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Here's another thing: IF Sexton is actually good, this trade shouldnt make us that much worse.

Still think you had to deal Clarkson to truly be bad enough to get past the Indys/Orlandos.

So on one hand I hope Sexton fails so the team can lose more, but I also hope he is good enough to elevate the team and have actual value as a starting PG.
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Last night was a good start for Sexton as the starting PG
 
YoungJefe said:
Last night was a good start for Sexton as the starting PG
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Ehh, he certainly played well and I'm not going to bag on him, but the entire game was a blowout and he put up stats in a blowout.

Hopefully games are actually close and we can see Sexton truly make winning plays and make others better. I'm doubtful that's a thing he can do consistently, but the way some people here speak of him, he should be capable of that.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
Ehh, he certainly played well and I'm not going to bag on him, but the entire game was a blowout and he put up stats in a blowout.

Hopefully games are actually close and we can see Sexton truly make winning plays and make others better. I'm doubtful that's a thing he can do consistently, but the way some people here speak of him, he should be capable of that.
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Maybe we can work out some line up when Sexton can play some 3 on 5. He seems to flourish then.
 
And I'm not saying if Sexton fails he sucks, but this is his time to really prove himself as a starting PG. He should be ready to take the reigns and elevate the team, not just put up stats.
 
Kuzma might be the only FA we could really look to be after this off-season based on age/timeline. But he's just "meh" from most advanced stats standpoint and I think he would cost A LOT.

What contending teams, that will be so for awhile, are coming into situations where they will be forced to resign core peices to big contracts, causing cap issues, that also have talented young pieces they could move? Dyson Daniels type situations that @Saint Cy of JFC has talked about?

NO, MEM type teams..........
 
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