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orangello said:
For my own curiosity's sake, do you consider the U19 tournament an All-Star game?
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My problem with his experience in the U19 tournament is that while playing against other kids, he got 18, 3 and 3 on 44% FGs and 33% 3pt. That might be okay, if you're playing college ball (still underwhelming, but at least acceptable if you're a young player), but playing against other high school kids, you should be better than that.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
My problem with his experience in the U19 tournament is that while playing against other kids, he got 18, 3 and 3 on 44% FGs and 33% 3pt. That might be okay, if you're playing college ball (still underwhelming, but at least acceptable if you're a young player), but playing against other high school kids, you should be better than that.
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Some of those guys have played pro ball somewhere. I'd say it was a good test for him.

So, back to my question, do you consider that tournament a glorified all star tournament?

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seattlejazzfan said:
My problem with his experience in the U19 tournament is that while playing against other kids, he got 18, 3 and 3 on 44% FGs and 33% 3pt. That might be okay, if you're playing college ball (still underwhelming, but at least acceptable if you're a young player), but playing against other high school kids, you should be better than that.
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Most one and dones are 18 and 19. They are who we consider the creme de la creme of NBA prospects right? All the older college kids are there because they weren't good enough to go pro.

So one and dones are u-19 essentially.

Exum playing against U-19 kids, some of which have already been pro--what's the hang up?
 
Sexual Favors said:
Don't pretend you've seen any prospect in a real basketball game either. You've seen them playing a different game with different rules, in college games with other just-out-of high school kids who have talent, or older kids who couldn't even make the DLeague.

You're just salty because some of us Exum supporters have actually thought this through.
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If you don't think there is a huge difference between college experience or pro Euro and High School, there is no discussion to be had.
 
Sexual Favors said:
Most one and dones are 18 and 19. They are who we consider the creme de la creme of NBA prospects right? All the older college kids are there because they weren't good enough to go pro.

So one and dones are u-19 essentially.

Exum playing against U-19 kids, some of which have already been pro--what's the hang up?
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Those same college kids who weren't good enough to make the NBA, sent Parker and Wiggins packing. Whether they are good enough to play in the NBA or not, they are light years ahead of any group of High School age kids.
 
I think Exum will be good, but would seriously consider Smart over him. I cant wait until the combine and workouts begin. Smart is gonna rise. Top 5 pick.
 
orangello said:
Some of those guys have played pro ball somewhere. I'd say it was a good test for him.

So, back to my question, do you consider that tournament a glorified all star tournament?

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The U19 isn't technically an all-star tournament, but it isn't much more meaningful. Either way, Exum wasn't even very good in that tournament.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
If you don't think there is a huge difference between college experience or pro Euro and High School, there is no discussion to be had.
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Honestly, the difference isn't as great as you try to make it out to be. Granted, there is a difference, but it is not huge. If more college players were good enough to play pro overseas, they would. College game is overhyped, and is quite honestly equally as hard to scout from because of all the rules and styles that tend to mask (for better or worse) NBA potential.
 
Vermin said:
I think Exum will be good, but would seriously consider Smart over him. I cant wait until the combine and workouts begin. Smart is gonna rise. Top 5 pick.
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Exum might be the best player in the draft. Just because he's never played in real games doesn't mean he sucks (I know you're not saying that, but thought I should get it out there). I just think he's a huge risk top 4, and while guys like Randle, Vonleh, Smart, etc, are being picked apart because they've played tough games against good competition, Exum is just sitting back with a smile on his face comfortably in the top 4 because he's only played in all-star games or against other kids. We haven't seen his warts like we have everybody else.
 
Sexual Favors said:
Honestly, the difference isn't as great as you try to make it out to be. Granted, there is a difference, but it is not huge. If more college players were good enough to play pro overseas, they would. College game is overhyped, and is quite honestly equally as hard to scout from because of all the rules and styles that tend to mask (for better or worse) NBA potential.
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Take a look at Australia's roster or any of the U19 rosters. Any good college team would beat them by 50+.
 
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