Which management decision was the worst?

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I still say getting rid of Harris. Yes, he wasn't that good. But he was way more efficient than Mo, and he helped keep the focus on the interior game. I think Harris matched with Foye (the biggest problem the year Harris was starter is that outside shooting was awful) would have worked better than MoFoye.

I understand why we did the move, but this is a hindsight poll question, so in hindsight I say it was the worst move.

 

[Stoked]

I understand the Harris for Marvin and then bringing in Mo series of events. Good try that unfortunately did not turn out like Utah wanted.

I'd be inclined to say the no trade at trade deadline but I do not know what was or was not offered or discussed.

 

[NUMBERICA]

To get anything out of Al, the system becomes Al. That's how it was, and that's what it became.

 

[franklin]

Boozer TPE/1st/Koufos for Jefferson

Jefferson is a losing player. He doesn't play defense and he can't play or guard the pick and roll. If he ever is on a good playoff team, it will be because he's coming off the bench. Yet This is the guy that has been our #1 option for the last 3 seasons.

edit: Actually, I take that back. Jefferson took Kanter under his wing and I really appreciate him for that. Kanter would be no where near where he is now if Jefferson wasn't on the team. I'd say the worst decision is probably not trading Millsap by the deadline.

In defense of management, they had to make a move like this and go for it all with Deron Williams. Pretty hard to sit on your hands when you have a guy putting up an argument on the court for best point guard in the league. It makes no sense to me to sit around and piss him off by not putting any talent around him, then watching him walk a couple years after.

Also, at the time, most everyone here thought Jefferson was a better player than Boozer. Admittedly that was a flawed view based in Boozer hate, but we were all pretty excited by the acquisition.

 

[dipship31]

In defense of management, they had to make a move like this and go for it all with Deron Williams. Pretty hard to sit on your hands when you have a guy putting up an argument on the court for best point guard in the league. It makes no sense to me to sit around and piss him off by not putting any talent around him, then watching him walk a couple years after.

Also, at the time, most everyone here thought Jefferson was a better player than Boozer. Admittedly that was a flawed view based in Boozer hate, but we were all pretty excited by the acquisition.

Yep, I think most people liked the bulk of the moves being discussed in this thread at the time they went down, but hardly anyone liked the move of keeping both Paul/Al.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Tinsley/Watson did fine in the system from purely a PG persepctive, the problem was they had 0 offensive game. Now a imagine a PG who has 10x the PG ability of Watson/Tinsley, but can also shoot 40% from the 3pt line and 50% from the field. He wouldn't suck. Stop with the hyperbole.

what system?
and did do not fine.
tinsley got most of his assist by pushing the ball

 

[b_line]

I understand the urge to be positive. Let me just counter, though: Jefferson was also the primary player obstructing Kanter from playing significant minutes for two seasons. Jefferson always gets his no matter what, and Kanter gets the minutes taken out of his pocket no matter what. I don't doubt that Kanter's learned a thing or two from Al, what I doubt greatly is that Kanter wouldn't be further along if Jefferson wasn't here.

ouch. It's like a chicken egg situation. Does Kanter develop the post moves sans Al? Maybe. Does he get the playing time if Al is not here? Probably. If you put it that way though, then wouldnt the logical situation be to trade Millsap at the beginning of the season?

 

[cctrackstar]

I voted Mo, but probably shouldn't have. It just occurs to me that he isn't really a point guard, at least not a pass first one. I'm getting the vibe that he won't be back next year, which is fine if we get a young talented guard to replace him. He probable isn't happy with other players initiating the offence while he tries to get open for shots, but if he can't pass the rock......

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

Also, at the time, most everyone here thought Jefferson was a better player than Boozer. Admittedly that was a flawed view based in Boozer hate, but we were all pretty excited by the acquisition.

Jefferson is better, only because he didn't sit out 1/3 of the time he was here. Boozer may have been somewhat better when he was on the court, but he gave the Jazz nothing during his numerous injury vacations.

 

[cctrackstar]

Al can't defend, Boozer can't defend. Al can hit a mid range shot, so can Boozer. Al is actually better in the paint, but Boozer is better on the drive, so that's sixes. Al = Boozer, and both of them are liabilities who can score on a bad team.

 

[b_line]

Tinsley/Watson did fine in the system from purely a PG persepctive, the problem was they had 0 offensive game. Now a imagine a PG who has 10x the PG ability of Watson/Tinsley, but can also shoot 40% from the 3pt line and 50% from the field. He wouldn't suck. Stop with the hyperbole.

So you are talking about Steve Nash in his prime right? haha, that point guard you described is like an all time great. Heck, I would settle for Keith Mcleod at this point.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I voted Mo, but probably shouldn't have. It just occurs to me that he isn't really a point guard, at least not a pass first one. I'm getting the vibe that he won't be back next year, which is fine if we get a young talented guard to replace him. He probable isn't happy with other players initiating the offence while he tries to get open for shots, but if he can't pass the rock......

Mo's whole reason for being excited to come to Utah is that he would be the starter. He said he didn't like coming off the bench for the Clippers, but he realized he had no room to complain because he was behind CP3. I really doubt he would be happy coming off the bench.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

So you are talking about Steve Nash in his prime right? haha, that point guard you described is like an all time great. Heck, I would settle for Keith Mcleod at this point.

No, we were talking about Stockton. DJ said Stockton would suck with this team.

 

[franklin]

Yep, I think most people liked the bulk of the moves being discussed in this thread at the time they went down, but hardly anyone liked the move of keeping both Paul/Al.

Concisely put.

Jefferson is better, only because he didn't sit out 1/3 of the time he was here. Boozer may have been somewhat better when he was on the court, but he gave the Jazz nothing during his numerous injury vacations.

Al can't defend, Boozer can't defend. Al can hit a mid range shot, so can Boozer. Al is actually better in the paint, but Boozer is better on the drive, so that's sixes. Al = Boozer, and both of them are liabilities who can score on a bad team.

You two put that one to bed quickly.

 

[b_line]

Jefferson is better, only because he didn't sit out 1/3 of the time he was here. Boozer may have been somewhat better when he was on the court, but he gave the Jazz nothing during his numerous injury vacations.

maybe if Jefferson had sat out 1/3 of the time he was here, it would have been better for our young guys to develop. Kanter and Favors were killing it when Millsap and Jeffy were injured.

 

[The Pearl]

Drafting Deron Williams over Chris Paul.

 

[b_line]

No, we were talking about Stockton. DJ said Stockton would suck with this team.

oh yeah, I forgot that. I would imagine with our core 4 going forward, any young point guard would do, as long has he has decent passing ability, and is not constantly looking for his shot like Mo is. Right now, it kind of kills me that we don't still have Eric Maynor. I think he would have been a decent fill in guy to man the point until we get the long term starter.

 

[jumpin bean]

I thought we got Mo and Marvin to push the tempo on offense.I remember in pre season we were running the ball up like the Suns saying this was Corbins plan,run and use our depth to wear teams out at altitude.I was on board with that ,everyone gets minutes C4,and it looked like the best plan Nuggets lite.Then the season started and Ty goes to half court dump it to Al ball,vets standing around watching and our future rotting on the bench.this season is all about TY not knowing what he is doing.

 

[cctrackstar]

Mo's whole reason for being excited to come to Utah is that he would be the starter. He said he didn't like coming off the bench for the Clippers, but he realized he had no room to complain because he was behind CP3. I really doubt he would be happy coming off the bench.

When did I mention him coming off the bench? If he is on the team, he WILL start, and in that case, the Jazz shouldn't draft a point guard. With Burks being the primary backup at point, it would be a waste of a pick. Personally, I would prefer Mo not come back and use the money to re-sign the core four and bring in some very low cost backup players. Now since the core four are not due for re-upping next year the Jazz can use their cap room to give other teams cap relief in exchange for 2014 draft picks. This gives the team future assets while getting time for the core four plus the two first round picks. (hence why we have a ten day contract on the team)

 

[jumpin bean]

and MAYNOR was available at the trade deadline.Portland snagged him.