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Which new player will have the biggest impact?

Who will have the best impact next season?

  • Marvin Williams

    Votes: 21 37.5%

  • Randy Foye

    Votes: 4 7.1%

  • Mo Williams

    Votes: 31 55.4%
  • Total voters
    56
Harcher said:
I voted mo. But it was because he has bigger shoes to fill and his impact will be the greatest of the three. Marvin will appear to be a bigger impact (MaWill >> carroll et al) But Mo will have the bigger impact becuase if he's not a suitable replacement for Harris, there will be big issues.
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I don't see how he won't be a suitable replacement for Harris.
All of his career numbers are higher than Harris's have ever been.
With the exception of course of Harris's all-star season.
More assists, more points, better field goal percentage, better 3 point percentage.... better defender.
 
Beantown said:
Out of three new guys which will have the best impact on the Jazz next season?

Mo Williams-outside shooting/toughness

Marvin Williams-size, true SF, mid range game

Randy Foye-outside shooting, defense



Both averaged similar numbers in ppg.

Give your reasons for who you choose.
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It's like wishing the right side of the coin before it's in the air. All guy you mentioned are so inconsistent that's why tough to guess the result. I prefer the biggest surprise comes from the youngsters such as Kanter and Burks. Favors will get the min he deserves and it will be seen in the statistic papers so it is not surprising for me. Hayward will shoot the ball average but his other numbers will be up.
 
people are talking like mo has a history of being a hard-nosed leader. where? he wasn't that in milwaukee, he wasn't that in cleveland, and he didn't even come close to that in LA. don't get me wrong, he'll keep defenses honest with his shot, but he's no chris paul.
 
theNBAnerd said:
people are talking like mo has a history of being a hard-nosed leader. where? he wasn't that in milwaukee, he wasn't that in cleveland, and he didn't even come close to that in LA. don't get me wrong, he'll keep defenses honest with his shot, but he's no chris paul.
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I don't think anyone ever suggested he was. But he's a solid shooter, which we need and actually wants to play in Utah. You can argue Mo = Devin. I'm ok with that...except for the fact that Harris' game is built on quickness and penetration. And those skills aren't quite what they used to be. On the other hand, Mo is a competent ball-handler who just needs to run the P&R or get the ball to Jefferson and wait at the arc for a 3 if it gets kicked back out. We also have another couple of players who are going to be playmakers/penetrators in Hayward and Burks. AS such even if Mo = Deron in terms of individual comparisons, Mo is a much better fit overall.
 
MoTown16 said:
I don't think anyone ever suggested he was. But he's a solid shooter, which we need and actually wants to play in Utah. You can argue Mo = Devin. I'm ok with that...except for the fact that Harris' game is built on quickness and penetration. And those skills aren't quite what they used to be. On the other hand, Mo is a competent ball-handler who just needs to run the P&R or get the ball to Jefferson and wait at the arc for a 3 if it gets kicked back out. We also have another couple of players who are going to be playmakers/penetrators in Hayward and Burks. AS such even if Mo = Deron in terms of individual comparisons, Mo is a much better fit overall.
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please tell me you meant devin there.

at any rate, YOU might not be saying that mo is a tremendous leader and the personaification of tough, but if you look through this thread, several people are. at one point there were 2-3 posts in a row about how mo will be the team leader, and i'm just wondering where this perception comes from.

as far as the fit conversation, i think there will be nights over the course of the season when people will want mo's head on a platter. devin is simply the devil we know... we aren't yet intimately familiar with all of mo's flaws and the ways he won't "fit" as well... but we will be.
 
The Fresh Prince said:
Something tells me Marvin will strive here in a system. He wasn't really made for a ATL teams system that had seen a few coaches in his time there.
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Something tells me that you don't know the definition of the word "strive." I, on the other hand, think he will thrive, and that's why I voted for Marvin as well.
 
The perception of why Mo will be the team leader is because we HAVE NONE, and he wasnt needed to be the leader where he has been. Yet, I would argue his personality would suggest he will be that here based on options we have, and he will take it on.
 
Scorpjazz said:
The perception of why Mo will be the team leader is because we HAVE NONE, and he wasnt needed to be the leader where he has been. Yet, I would argue his personality would suggest he will be that here based on options we have, and he will take it on.
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they didn't need his leadership in milwaukee, where he was the starting PG on a young team?? they didn't need his leadership in cleveland when they specifically brought him in to be lebron's #2 guy?! or after lebron left and they needed a leader to help steady the ship?!

i'll give you that his leadership wasn't needed as a third-string rookie PG in utah and it wasn't needed in LAC where he came off the bench... but the guy has been put in situations where he could have shown us his churchillian side, and i'm wondering why we think if he didn't have it then he's suddenly going to develop one.

i personally don't think mo has a high enough basketball IQ to be a leader on this or any team, but that's just me... and that's part of the reason i'm not as wild about that move as everyone else is.
 
green said:
Marvin - Marvin will live up to him being picked #2.

I hope.
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This means he will become a perennial All Star who deserved to be picked ahead of DWill? How long do you expect this transition to take? The city ought to throw a parade for him if you turn out to be right. It would be the steal of the century and vault us directly into contender status. Are your expectations really that high?
 
I also voted Marvin because I just have a hunch he is going to break out in a Jazz Uni and play at an all star level.
I've never drank the Hayward kool aid, didn't like the pick and while he has been decent, my eyes are not seeing anything close to an all star.
Solid bench player.

Nerd, What have you seen that says Mo wasn't a leader? Those qualities are hard to quantify and don't show up in stats or sports page headlines.
I think he will be very solid.
 
Michael said:
I also voted Marvin because I just have a hunch he is going to break out in a Jazz Uni and play at an all star level.
I've never drank the Hayward kool aid, didn't like the pick and while he has been decent, my eyes are not seeing anything close to an all star.
Solid bench player.

Nerd, What have you seen that says Mo wasn't a leader? Those qualities are hard to quantify and don't show up in stats or sports page headlines.
I think he will be very solid.
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mostly i just don't think he has great basketball smarts, and that's a tough weakness in a point guard.

i also just don't think he's ever shown that leader DNA. yes, he can pump his fist to the crowd after a big shot, but that's not exactly leadership.
 
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