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Which Player would you rather have: Marven Williams, Evan Turner or Harrison Barnes

Catchall;769254[B said:
]Great, maybe we can give them their 2014 pick back then.[/B] That said, I might actually talk myself into Doug McDermott or James Young.
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I was just going to say this. They have the perfect coach who knows just how to make sure it is a lottery pick too!
 
dalamon said:
Hayward will make em if Turner is dealing with a lions-share of offense-initiation Hayward is better playing off-ball than either of them.
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If this is the case, why not have burks dealing with a lions-share of offense initiation (which seems to be burks strong suit)
 
ncoloradojazz said:
Great athlete???HAHA not even close. He gets by due to his high bball iq not athletic ability
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He is a good enough athlete to be invited to the dunk contest.
They usually dont invite jj reddick tupe athletes to that
 
fishonjazz said:
If this is the case, why not have burks dealing with a lions-share of offense initiation (which seems to be burks strong suit)
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Turner and Burks are different players, but they both offer similar roles I suppose. Both are less-effective off-ball than Hayward, and require the ball in their hands in order to maximize their productivity. IMO Turner is the superior play-maker-- so if he were on this team, he'd be doing Hayward's role IMO-- while Hayward gets pushed to a more off-ball role. The same can't be said about Burks just yet, as I still think that Hayward is better at running the offense as a playmaker than Burks.

Burks isn't the facilitator that Turner or Hayward are, so that's why you can't really compare the two.


You do raise a good point though, in that we can't hold onto Burks, Hayward, AND Turner-- so one would need to go.
 
dalamon said:
Burks isn't the facilitator that Turner or Hayward are, so that's why you can't really compare the two.
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Agreed..... because both hayward and turner are excellent facilitators.

Burks is a much better playmaker (passer) than alot of people give him credit for though.
He has this label of chucker and ball hog according to alot of people and it simply isnt true. All the way back through his college days he has been a very willing passer and has been good at sharing the ball.

Dont know why he gets the ball hog/chucker label. Maybe because he is black and flashy and has swagger plus is a good scorer so people just see all that and figure he is a chucker.
Far from the truth though
 
Barnes. Most upside. I think he has been off this year because of minutes going to Iggy. Whether he gets moved this week, I don't know, but I think he will get moved before his rookie deal is up.
 
ncoloradojazz said:
Did you see explosive dunks from him at the contest? He is an average athlete in nba term
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Tell me some of the other "average" athletes that get invites to the dunk competition.
 
None.

Turner can't shoot/ hit 3's. His uptick in play is in a contract year and on a bad team--suspect.

Barnes has good size for the wing, etc., but if another wing is coming in to steal minutes from Burks/Hayward/Evans, I want it to be a Jabari or Wiggins (long shot now). Barnes just doesn't do it for me, but if I had to pick one of these 3 it would be him because of his jumper/ age.

Marvin is a good dude, and a decent defender on the wing. I don't really buy into him being a stretch 4 for our future. I think he's fulfilling the stretch 4 role on a bad team while he's in a contract year. He's banged up, and I don't expect him to sustain his recent level of play through next season. Can he really gaurd PF's? No, he can't. He tries, but he can't. As long as we have Marvin, Corbin will rely on him at the expense of Kanter's development. Kanter won't be allowed to shoot 3's, because he will see Marvin as the only big who can offer floor spacing. Corbin is a veterosexual, it's not his fault, but it is the reality.
 
For those of you that are Barnes lovers... Here is an excerpt form ESPN regarding a trade they would like to see happen.

Philadelphia 76ers receive: Harrison Barnes, Marreese Speights and Festus Ezeli
Golden State Warriors receive: Thaddeus Young and Brandon Davies

Why I want to see it: Barnes needs to go somewhere with lowered expectations. Young needs to go somewhere with higher expectations. Barnes has strangled the Warriors' offense this season with his ball-stopping ways both on the perimeter and in the post. The Warriors score a pathetic 99.7 points per 100 possessions with him on the floor this season, according to NBA.com. And the scary thing is that most of those lineups feature offensively inclined players Stephen Curry and David Lee. That's darn near impossible to do.

When it comes to Barnes, Golden State GM Bob Myers might have to save his coach Mark Jackson from himself. Barnes is one of eight players over the past two seasons to be awarded at least 25 minutes per game while posting a PER below 11. You don't want to see the others on the list. The bottom line is that the 21-year-old Barnes is woefully overmatched in a win-now environment like Golden State's. Philadelphia could develop him in ways that Golden State can't afford to try in a championship hunt.
 
mdalby said:
For those of you that are Barnes lovers... Here is an excerpt form ESPN regarding a trade they would like to see happen.

Philadelphia 76ers receive: Harrison Barnes, Marreese Speights and Festus Ezeli
Golden State Warriors receive: Thaddeus Young and Brandon Davies

Why I want to see it: Barnes needs to go somewhere with lowered expectations. Young needs to go somewhere with higher expectations. Barnes has strangled the Warriors' offense this season with his ball-stopping ways both on the perimeter and in the post. The Warriors score a pathetic 99.7 points per 100 possessions with him on the floor this season, according to NBA.com. And the scary thing is that most of those lineups feature offensively inclined players Stephen Curry and David Lee. That's darn near impossible to do.

When it comes to Barnes, Golden State GM Bob Myers might have to save his coach Mark Jackson from himself. Barnes is one of eight players over the past two seasons to be awarded at least 25 minutes per game while posting a PER below 11. You don't want to see the others on the list. The bottom line is that the 21-year-old Barnes is woefully overmatched in a win-now environment like Golden State's. Philadelphia could develop him in ways that Golden State can't afford to try in a championship hunt.
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Sounds good to me mostly because it makes their bench even worse! Seriously though they would have like no bench and probably be no better then before the trade.
 
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