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Who Do You Prefer Among Ace Bailey, Tre Johnson & V.J. Edgecombe? (Poll)

Which player do you prefer for the Jazz?

  • Ace Bailey

    Votes: 28 26.4%

  • Tre Johnson

    Votes: 45 42.5%

  • V.J. Edgecombe

    Votes: 21 19.8%

  • I don't have a strong preference.

    Votes: 12 11.3%
  • Total voters
    106
I can only see Fears as a primary on ball guard. There is no other path for him. He gets to the rim so easily, it's a bit crazy. Taking into account both his age and that the NBA is more spaced out; Fears could really break out at the NBA level. More than anything, he looks like a natural out there, moving and slicing up defenses. I can't imagine any of the other guards ever looking as smooth as Fears.

It's a trait that all the great guards share, just the ability to play at your own pace and make everything look easy. And Fears has that.

So many interesting prospects and we only have 2 picks in the first.
 
Udidthizz said:
If none of them are available at 5, either Flagg or Harper is. So that would be a pretty decent outcome. 0% of that happening ofcourse.

And I'm ok with drafting for need at 21, but at 5 you have to take the best available player.
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Harper maybe, obviously not Flagg. IMurray Boyle would give us some serious street cred in the paint, and he’s got an incredibly high ceiling imo. I just dam sure don’t want Fears!
 
If Jazz picks VJ, they can form a strong defensive line with Collier-VJ-Hendriks-Markkanen-Kessler.
If they pick Tre? Collier will lead the game, Markkanen and Hendriks (or Filipowski, Bryce, etc.) will shoot 3-pointers from the corner/elbow, and Tre will be the ace in between. He can score from anywhere.
If they pick Ace... First, Utah needs to clean up its forwards. That's okay. The frontcourt of Ace-Markkanen-Kessler looks pretty good. The backcourt looks a bit weak, so they should clean up the forwards and find a guard prospect.
 
Basketball Novice said:
I can only see Fears as a primary on ball guard. There is no other path for him. He gets to the rim so easily, it's a bit crazy. Taking into account both his age and that the NBA is more spaced out; Fears could really break out at the NBA level. More than anything, he looks like a natural out there, moving and slicing up defenses. I can't imagine any of the other guards ever looking as smooth as Fears.

It's a trait that all the great guards share, just the ability to play at your own pace and make everything look easy. And Fears has that.

So many interesting prospects and we only have 2 picks in the first.
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He seems like an elite handles prospect
 
The Midnight said:
Shooting guard obviosly.

Collier
Edgecomb / Keyonte
Markkanen / Cody
Filipkowski / Hendrix
Walker
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Then we have a problem. Whoever plays the shooting guard should be able to create good shots through dribble penetration, shooting off the dribble and shooting coming off screens. VJ is not good at that. Also, standing at 6'4" with the 6'7" wingspan he is a bit below average for SG and will be at a disadvantage against big SGs. In short, his effectiveness will be diminished, especially if he does not make huge improvements in his handle, shooting off the dribble and step-backs.

Also, if he does play SG with his current limitations it would put extra pressure on the Jazz to find someone who can do the typical SG stuff but at another position, like SF or PG. Edgecombe is a good and likeable player but he is not an easy prospect to build the team with.
 
jazznik said:
Then we have a problem. Whoever plays the shooting guard should be able to create good shots through dribble penetration, shooting off the dribble and shooting coming off screens. VJ is not good at that. Also, standing at 6'4" with the 6'7" wingspan he is a bit below average for SG and will be at a disadvantage against big SGs. In short, his effectiveness will be diminished, especially if he does not make huge improvements in his handle, shooting off the dribble and step-backs.

Also, if he does play SG with his current limitations it would put extra pressure on the Jazz to find someone who can do the typical SG stuff but at another position, like SF or PG. Edgecombe is a good and likeable player but he is not an easy prospect to build the team with.
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If you pick VJ you’re projecting that he could develop his handle and that dribble drive part of his game. You’re banking on his work ethics and the drive to improve.

The same goes with Tre and his defense.
 
The Midnight said:
If you pick VJ you’re projecting that he could develop his handle and that dribble drive part of his game. You’re banking on his work ethics and the drive to improve.

The same goes with Tre and his defense.
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The handle is arguably the hardest thing to develop for the players already in the NBA, regardless of their work ethic. There are many incredibly committed 3-and-D players who never managed to develop their dribbling ability.
 
jazznik said:
The handle is arguably the hardest thing to develop for the players already in the NBA, regardless of their work ethic. There are many incredibly committed 3-and-D players who never managed to develop their dribbling ability.
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Ok, but the hardest thing to improve is actually athleticism which VJ already has in spades…
 
jazznik said:
Then we have a problem. Whoever plays the shooting guard should be able to create good shots through dribble penetration, shooting off the dribble and shooting coming off screens. VJ is not good at that. Also, standing at 6'4" with the 6'7" wingspan he is a bit below average for SG and will be at a disadvantage against big SGs. In short, his effectiveness will be diminished, especially if he does not make huge improvements in his handle, shooting off the dribble and step-backs.

Also, if he does play SG with his current limitations it would put extra pressure on the Jazz to find someone who can do the typical SG stuff but at another position, like SF or PG. Edgecombe is a good and likeable player but he is not an easy prospect to build the team with.
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I love how a hyper athletic, legit 6'4'' (barefoot) kid is suddenly too small for an NBA SG. Gimme a break. Jordan was 6'4'', Vince and Kobe were 6'5'', Curry is 6'2'', Booker is 6'4''.

VJ can absolutely play the 2 in the league. His final NBA form is probably a lead combo guard, with sky high potential.
 
VJ's final form in the NBA is probably Jalen Suggs.

Basically 100% of VJ's offense was from

1. Spot-up threes
2. Secondary transition
3. Spot-up threes coming off a curl to get open
4. Transition
5. Open lane for a dunk on a cut
6. Open lane for a dunk on a very hard closeout

And these are all good ways for a role player to score, but when asked to create at all, he was horrible. And I don't think he's an elite enough of a shooter or defender to become a star without any creation as a SG.
 
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