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Who is Worth Keeping on the End of Bench?

Forrest can stay. Hughes can stay but really only because we have no idea if he is or isn't a player yet and he's cheap. Udoka is guaranteed... so he is around unless he has some trade value.

I'd cut Morgan unless Favs is moved. He's a small ball 5 that hasn't proved he can shoot. I doubt he becomes more than a minimum dude so we can clear that spot.

Oni is a keeper at the minimum imo. This was his first real playing time so he may figure it out. Its worth seeing the experiment through and giving him regular season rotation minutes to find out if he can play.

I love the idea of Brantley... I have seen some good things... things that we need. I would have loved to see us just try him in Niang's minutes for a month... lets just see whats there. I think we likely let him go and I will not be surprised to see him re-surface as a guy that we regret not giving a chance. I'd keep him if Quin told me he'd use him.

Thomas - He shot really poorly while here... I know he is a good shooter but... he is small... his shot is a little slow... and he has a flat shot for a guy that is such a good shooter. Slow, unathletic, limited, small.... yeah that's what we need in the backcourt. He can't get the shot off at all. He is a defensive liability that I can see just getting murdered. I'd pack his bags for him if the cut him... they don't have the stones to cut him though since they gave up a pick for him. This is one of DL/Zanik's dumber moves especially when you consider how much we needed another bench player.

Keep -Forrest, Hughes, Udoka, Oni
Cut - Thomas, Morgan
Maybe - Ask coach if he thinks he'd play this guy 12 minutes a night to figure it out. If he says no then let the guy walk.
 
I still think Hughes, Dok and Forrest have some potential. Everyone else can go as far as I'm concerned. There's no way DL's going o let Oni go.
 
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I think it's worth noting to start that the Jazz are going to have to have a minimum of players on the roster, so at a certain point, cutting a guy is only worth as much as the prospect being brought in.

Thomas isn't worth the jersey he wears. I'm beside myself the Jazz traded an asset for him. Because of the former, he should be cut, because of the latter, he probably won't since the Jazz are the Sunk-Cost Express.

I don't think Oni has it. Cut.

Morgan has shown the most on-court contribution of the bunch and he seems to have been the exact type of player the Jazz could've turned to in games 5 and 6 (BTW, if the Jazz just hold those leads, guess who's in the WCF?). Keep.

Actually, Forrest has probably contributed most from this bunch and is worth another year of investigation. I'm not bullish on him developing a jumper, but his form isn't broken and crazier things have happened. If Quin ever grows the stones to try specialty lineups then he still might have utility for a defensive lineup. Keep.

Brantley's on the fence for me. Depends on what the Jazz are replacing him with. Not sure his game translates to the NBA, but if it ever does it would be pretty sick.

Hughes strikes me as a rich-man's Kevin Murphy or poor-man's CJ Miles. Which is to say, not that rich. On the fence, again. Wings (especially ones that can handle the ball) come at a premium and he looks to have some potential, so that's probably enough.
 
cowhide said:
I would cut Thomas too. Hughes Udoka and Forrest I would keep. If they let Niang go then I would keep Brantley. I would try to trade Favors Not easy I know but I would and then give Udoka his back up minutes.
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That's fair, I just want to see what can become of him. It's just rare to get that level of shooter on your team.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:
Forrest can stay. Hughes can stay but really only because we have no idea if he is or isn't a player yet and he's cheap. Udoka is guaranteed... so he is around unless he has some trade value.

I'd cut Morgan unless Favs is moved. He's a small ball 5 that hasn't proved he can shoot. I doubt he becomes more than a minimum dude so we can clear that spot.

Oni is a keeper at the minimum imo. This was his first real playing time so he may figure it out. Its worth seeing the experiment through and giving him regular season rotation minutes to find out if he can play.

I love the idea of Brantley... I have seen some good things... things that we need. I would have loved to see us just try him in Niang's minutes for a month... lets just see whats there. I think we likely let him go and I will not be surprised to see him re-surface as a guy that we regret not giving a chance. I'd keep him if Quin told me he'd use him.

Thomas - He shot really poorly while here... I know he is a good shooter but... he is small... his shot is a little slow... and he has a flat shot for a guy that is such a good shooter. Slow, unathletic, limited, small.... yeah that's what we need in the backcourt. He can't get the shot off at all. He is a defensive liability that I can see just getting murdered. I'd pack his bags for him if the cut him... they don't have the stones to cut him though since they gave up a pick for him. This is one of DL/Zanik's dumber moves especially when you consider how much we needed another bench player.

Keep -Forrest, Hughes, Udoka, Oni
Cut - Thomas, Morgan
Maybe - Ask coach if he thinks he'd play this guy 12 minutes a night to figure it out. If he says no then let the guy walk.
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The thing is tho you can get a minimum guy for like 800K on a non-guaranteed deal vs the 1.7 Oni is owed next season. Doent sound like a lot, but under the LT that's like a 3 million dollar difference (guesstimating)
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The thing is tho you can get a minimum guy for like 800K on a non-guaranteed deal vs the 1.7 Oni is owed next season. Doent sound like a lot, but under the LT that's like a 3 million dollar difference (guesstimating)
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Incorrect. You can only get a $800k (I think it is basically like 900k) guy if they are drafted in the second round. Undrafted FA get a minimum of 1.7M. So if we nab a few extra picks in the 50s (milwaukee did this) then yes we can save some dough. I'd be okay with that.
 
Here are the types of players floating around that might be attractive to the Jazz: Darrun Hilliard, Jarrell Martin, Tyler Harvey, Dakari Johnson, Wayne Selden Jr., Justin Patton, Sylven Landesberg, John Mooney.
 
Saint Cy of JFC said:
The thing is tho you can get a minimum guy for like 800K on a non-guaranteed deal vs the 1.7 Oni is owed next season. Doent sound like a lot, but under the LT that's like a 3 million dollar difference (guesstimating)
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It would save 2.4M under the luxury tax which is worth it in itself but with how sloppy DL has been around the edges I’m not holding my breath.
 
Keep Hughes, Doka, Forrest

Cut everyone else.

For those of you wanting to keep thomas, seriously? The dude is too short and his windup is way too slow. Look at his shooting percentages this year. He’s closer to Jimmer than Korver.
 
"Sarcasm Font Engage".... I'm sure we will find some older players who want to come to Utah and play with Mitchell and Rudy and fill their bench role and help us to the next level. Ya know like the Clipper and Nets etc.....
 
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