Who will lead in PPG this season?

[Miggs]

2014-15 - usage% 26.2 - true shooting% .567
2015-16 - usage% 25.7 - true shooting% .559
2016-17 - usage% 27.2 - true shooting% .595
(per basketballreference.com)

I think we really disagree on this one, Cy. Hayward's usage was basically the same during the last three seasons, but only during the last one his efficiency was high. It doesn't matter if we label his efficiency during the 14-15 and 15-16 seasons "decent", "mediocre", "sufficient", or whatever... My point is that having your main scorer shooting at around .565 is no recipe for real success. So, if we are talking about Hayward during the three years in which he was clearly "the man", the two first seasons should have made, I think, us want him to shoot (slightly) less and only the last one should have made us want him to shoot more.

Westbrook had a TS% of 55.4% this past season and his team hardly struggled.

 

[prodigy]

I think it will be Rudy but I'm also hoping for a return to see the old DFavs. Those two together can be so awesome

 

[Ron Mexico]

Westbrook had a TS% of 55.4% this past season and his team hardly struggled.

Jimmy Butler .586
Damian Lillard .586
Joel Embiid .584
DeMar DeRozan .552
John Wall .541
Kyrie Irving .580
Kevin Love .572
Blake Griffin .569
Marc Gasol .554
C.J. McCollum .585
Paul Millsap .542
Kristaps Porzingis .546
Draymond Green .522

And so on.

Plenty of good players around those TS% that did a lot of scoring and lead their teams well this year.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Westbrook had a TS% of 55.4% this past season and his team hardly struggled.

They kind of did. OKC won a lot of close games because of Westbrook, but they werent dominant or anything. If they had less luck in the final minutes of games, they could have been out of the playoffs. They only won 1 playoff game too.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

2014-15 - usage% 26.2 - true shooting% .567
2015-16 - usage% 25.7 - true shooting% .559
2016-17 - usage% 27.2 - true shooting% .595
(per basketballreference.com)

I think we really disagree on this one, Cy. Hayward's usage was basically the same during the last three seasons, but only during the last one his efficiency was high. It doesn't matter if we label his efficiency during the 14-15 and 15-16 seasons "decent", "mediocre", "sufficient", or whatever... My point is that having your main scorer shooting at around .565 is no recipe for real success. So, if we are talking about Hayward during the three years in which he was clearly "the man", the two first seasons should have made, I think, us want him to shoot (slightly) less and only the last one should have made us want him to shoot more.

Hayward shot 60% lmao. Who cares about what he shot when Raul Neto/Trey Burke/Shelvin Mack were his starting PG's?

 

[Magic Spray]

Hopefully Haywood's departure turns Goatbear into a 20/10 player.

20/15.

He's going to dominate.

 

[ncoloradojazz]

GSw
Okc
Houston
Spurs
Minny
Denver
Portland

All better then Utah and then who gets spot 8
N.o.
Memphis
Utah
Kings
Clippers


Utah chances of not making playoffs are Also very high because the offense is going struggle and this isn't football where defense when championships theory works. Good to score the ball to win now in nba and jazz missing a go to guy who can get a basket whenever is needed.

Franklin does have a point but takes it to far IMO. Some of the teams that improved were already playoff teams. Like Houston and OKC. Minny got much better but the Clips also got worse.

I think the Jazz will be better defensively and worse offensively. Hayward absolutely mattered. But I say the Jazz finish as the 7th seed.

 

[fishonjazz]

GSw
Okc
Houston
Spurs
Minny
Denver
Portland

All better then Utah and then who gets spot 8
N.o.
Memphis
Utah
Kings
Clippers


Utah chances of not making playoffs are Also very high because the offense is going struggle and this isn't football where defense when championships theory works. Good to score the ball to win now in nba and jazz missing a go to guy who can get a basket whenever is needed.

Lol @ Portland and Denver.

 

[sepanol]

If healthy Hood. If Gobert is leading scorer on a team, that team has serious offensive problems...

 

[NUMBERICA]

As for sample size. It's not huge but 32 games isn't tiny either.

Over 7 years.

Inferring results over an insufficient sample size breaks one of the commandments of statistics.

I know everyone is so horny about flipping the bird to the ex that left them, but that doesn't change that in no way, shape, or form could the Jazz be better without Hayward. It sucks. You move on.

 

[fishonjazz]

Over 7 years.

Inferring results over an insufficient sample size breaks one of the commandments of statistics.

I know everyone is so horny about flipping the bird to the ex that left them, but that doesn't change that in no way, shape, or form could the Jazz be better without Hayward. It sucks. You move on.

All I said is that we won at a better percentage without him than with him.

Sometimes you can just say "yep, you were right" and then move on.

I never said I think he sucked or that I think we will be better off without him this year (I wanted him to stay) but I found it to be an interesting stat. I'm sorry if it's a stat you don't like. Doesn't make it any less true.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

All I said is that we won at a better percentage without him than with him.

Sometimes you can just say "yep, you were right" and then move on.

I never said I think he sucked or that I think we will be better off without him this year (I wanted him to stay) but I found it to be an interesting stat. I'm sorry if it's a stat you don't like. Doesn't make it any less true.

No he doesnt. You are saying nonsensical stuff and that doesn't mean anything meaningful.