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Who's the Best Option at the SF

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Not to steal any of Silencer's thunder, but his post got me thinking about who is even available at the SF. Here is a list of some players who could play the SF. Who would be the best bet for the Jazz? Any others you could think of? A lot of these players are old, in bad contracts, or both. Are we better off trying to draft someone? I am on the side that wants to see how Sap does for a whole year at the SF. Here are the players and their age. I left out James, Durant, and Melo and highlighted the ones I think might be good for us and are possibly available.

Paul Pierce (33)
Rudy Gay (25)
Andre Iguodala (27)
Danny Granger (28)
Luol Deng (26)
D. Wright (25)
M. Beasley (22)
A. Kirilenko (30)
Shawn Marion (33)
H. Turkoglu (32)
G. Hill (39)
Josh Smith (25)
T. Prince (31)
R. Lewis (32)
D. Gallinari (23)
N. Batum (22)
T. Ariza (26)
J. Johnson (30)
W. Chandler (24)
Shane Battier (33)
Paul George (21)
 
Because we're re-building and not necessarily trying to 'create' an immediate contender (imo), I think we have to first look at our pick(s) in the next draft. Either get the SF of the future there, package the pick(s) to get one, or ???. Bottom line is we won't know until we know where we're picking and who's available.
 
I'm definitely "for" Sap running at SF for awhile, and see how he does. I think he can really do well, but probably not against elite small forwards. I actually think Millsap is probably the most talented guy on the team, and the only reason I would put him on the bench is Big Al's defensive liability. Not to knock Millsap's defense.... he just doesn't have the height and the length Favors has to provide the help defense.
By the way, isn't Jamal Crawford also available in free agency??

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PKM said:
Because we're re-building and not necessarily trying to 'create' an immediate contender (imo), I think we have to first look at our pick(s) in the next draft. Either get the SF of the future there, package the pick(s) to get one, or ???. Bottom line is we won't know until we know where we're picking and who's available.
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Agree, but some of this depends on the progression of Hayward and Burks. Gordon could very well be the answer at SF and Burks could be a starting 2. What may also come into play is a midseason trade involving the expiring contracts of CJ and Okur.

I think it much more likely the Jazz get a "young" veteran than draft another couple of rookies. With 4 lottery picks in the last two seasons, what the Jazz need now are a couple of sound veterans, not more youth.
 
I don't think Sap has any shot at being an effective 3, but I'm all for finding out so long as the experiment doesn't run on too long if it fails. I also don't think Hayward is going to work out at the 2 so our 3 problem is on the team already. For next year, the Jazz probably go into the season with CJ/Hayward/Bell and a vet pickup who Burks will challenge. For the future, the wings in general are hardly solid and there's no telling what that will look like. The only real question is what vet gets added. If it's not AK, it's going to be a rental given our committed salary.
 
GlassEater said:
Agree, but some of this depends on the progression of Hayward and Burks. Gordon could very well be the answer at SF and Burks could be a starting 2. What may also come into play is a midseason trade involving the expiring contracts of CJ and Okur.
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Completely agree here.

GlassEater said:
I think it much more likely the Jazz get a "young" veteran than draft another couple of rookies. With 4 lottery picks in the last two seasons, what the Jazz need now are a couple of sound veterans, not more youth.
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Not quite with you on this one. It all depends how well the new guys are progressing. No need to go get a veteran player that's old by the time the young guys are playing at a contender level .. imo.
 
The Jazz are in a bad way if Sap is our best option at SF. He not only had no chance guarding the elite SF's, he can't guard the majority of starting SF's in the league. He may end up being the starter but that simply means we have no one ready at that position.
 
PKM said:
Because we're re-building and not necessarily trying to 'create' an immediate contender (imo), I think we have to first look at our pick(s) in the next draft. Either get the SF of the future there, package the pick(s) to get one, or ???. Bottom line is we won't know until we know where we're picking and who's available.
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Totally agree. As others have noted too, Millsap and Hayward will each tell us a lot at the three this year (next year?) so things will only get clearer. Either way, eating up cap space on a guy who's not elite is foolish as the cap number comes down and many of our current core will need to be re-signed, potentially to big deals, years down the road, not to mention we're trying to build something and are still years away from being a legitimate squad anyway imo. The only three I'd sign is a cheap 1-2.5M guy who has no problem coming off the bench, is renowned for being a hell of a locker room guy and therefore influence on younger players, and still has some game left in him. It would have been nice if Raja could have been that at the two last year but he couldn't and Hayward and Burks should see more time than him there now anyway.
 
The good thing is we have until the trade deadline to see what works, or doesn't. Then we can make changes if needed, we are rebuilding so if this experiment doesn't go well oh well, and if somehow Millsap or more likely Hayward can handle it, sweet.
 
I like Dorrell Wright. Can shoot the lights out but I see him as someone that gives you options and flexibility. He's not enough of a hot-shot to demand big bucks or a starting slot, but you could start him, and you can also play him at three positions potentially (2-3-4).

As for the rest, most of them are too old, will require too many resources/assets, and close options for the Jazz.
 
I'm personally much more worried about the PG position at the moment/moving forward.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I'm personally much more worried about the PG position at the moment/moving forward.
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Same. I just don't see how we're realistically supposed to trade for a legit, young PG, so it's gonna have to be through the draft. And the only PG in the draft that might be worth a top 10 pick is Teague, who I'm not totally sold on. But here's to hoping he's the real deal.
 
Teague goes head-to-head against Kendall Marshall on December 3rd. I think this favors Kendall as he will have had last year and the first 5 or so games this year, whereas Teague will have only had the latter. There's no way Kendall can contain Teague defensively, but Teague may be trying too hard too soon and look like, well, a freshman.

PG's to watch this year: Teague, Kabongo, Wroten, and Marshall.
 
NUMBERICA said:
I'm personally much more worried about the PG position at the moment/moving forward.
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I'm fairly confident in Harris. But I also think (wish/dream/fantasize) that Ty plans to change the offense from being less centered on the PG. We have suspect shooters everywhere, but we're also one of the few teams that have 4 guys that can drive AND pass -- Hayward, CJ, Harris, and (hopefully) Burks. Jerry would have plugged those 4 into the system. I have to believe Ty is going to implement a lot more pick and roll from different attack points like the Mavs. Harris can fit well into that. He can also push the ball which I hope Ty plans to stress. The dude is fast on the dribble, and he can make stuff happen if we have a concept to get out on the break relentlessly.

Harris in the "Jazz System" is nothing special. Harris used right could be.
 
I really like the Idea of Rudy Gay. Maybe a package like this Miles, Millsap, Okur + 3million for Gay, Mayo then try and play big, have either Burks, Mayo, Hayward being the back up Point. That would be an amazing future core, G.S. pick, Mayo, Burk, Hayward, Gay, Kanter, Favors. Then whatever assets Utah gets from trading Harris/Jefferson within the next 2 years.
 
Jazzfanz said:
I really like the Idea of Rudy Gay. Maybe a package like this Miles, Millsap, Okur + 3million for Gay, Mayo then try and play big, have either Burks, Mayo, Hayward being the back up Point. That would be an amazing future core, G.S. pick, Mayo, Burk, Hayward, Gay, Kanter, Favors. Then whatever assets Utah gets from trading Harris/Jefferson within the next 2 years.
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lol.
 
Forgetting the trade idea, it always cracks me up when guys who have never played an NBA minute are considered part of the "core." I'm very excited about Kanter and Burks, but nobody is ever part of a core until they do something.
 
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