Maybe. Baron Davis might get him. Or Billups.
Who's the best PG in the NBA?
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Maybe. Baron Davis might get him. Or Billups.
doubledribble
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The more pertinent question to ask is who will be considered the best PG in the NBA by the end of this season?
I, for all my love for DWill,do not like his chances. My major concern is that I do not see him working to improve his game. He is basically the same player he was 2 years ago.
He still cruises on defense. Yeah, I am familiar with the argument that he has no choice but to save his energy to run the team's offense. But Rondo, prime Stockton, prime Kidd somehow managed to do both. He still too often starts very slow - Deron is almost never "hot" in the 1st Q. He is probably the major reason of the typically slow Jazz' starts.
Deron still does not know how to control the tempo and when to take the game over: how many times did we see the team struggling and DW having 3-5 points at halftime only to wake up in the third Q? Deron still cannot use his size advantage over smaller PGs: he rarely posts up.
Finally, Deron for 3 years in a row failed to dominate Grandpa Fisher in the playoffs. That is the position where the the Jazz should dominate as much as Kobe dominates our SGs. That should be Deron's focus all year-round: how to outplay Fisher.
The troubling thing is that Deron seems to have reached the conclusion that he does not need to improve his own game to win the championship. He seems to genuinely believe that it is the task of the front office: to surround him with better talent. Well, the problem is that everybody else is improving: Rondo is getting better every year, Rose is getting better, CP3 has been returning to his previous level...even Wall seems to be very impressive and far ahead of where DWill was in his rookie year. So, will Deron's name be in this debate a year from now? I am not so sure anymore.
Hopper
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Well, Blood, ya know...they wasn't nobuddy in the whole damn State of Texas who could whup his ***. Two-time state champeen. Ya forget that?
Hopper
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14 pts, 5 assists, 4 rebounds with 2 minutes still to go in the first quarter, last game (or mebbe the one before, I forget exactly). Not "hot" mebbe, cause that would only project out to like...56 pts, 20 assists, and 16 boards for the game, but still, kinda "warm" at least, doncha think?
twentytwo
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CP3 is overrated. The only reason his assist numbers are so high is because the Hornet's statistic trackers are corrupt people-- or idiots.
https://www.faniq.com/blog/Chris-Pauls-Assist-Totals-May-Be-Inaccurate-Blog-8977
Hopper
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Easy question, eh? The whole round world knows the answer to that because Looza done tole em.
Zup, there, eh, Driveway? Ya love Deron so much ya now done made 2 whole posts on this board since Looza left, eh? Nuthin to talk bout on the Bulls site no mo, I spoze.
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twentytwo
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My two cents:
-Wall and Rose are cut from the same mold. Grossly athletic but less PG minded. Need to work on jumpshooting. Wall has had a lot of turnovers, but it might just be rookie jitters and crappy players fumbling his passes.
-Rondo won't be as good once the big three aren't on his team anymore.
-CeePee3 is small and overrated. Gambles like a mother on defense but hey, it makes his boxscore look good.
-I like the strides Westbrook has made. I watched him a lot last year and have watched most of their games this year. I don't think he will be "elite" tier when all is said and done, but he is a good compliment to Durrant's amazingness.
-DWill is the man. Obviously I could be biased, but I don't really think so. He has the best body, is capable of being a great defender (remember the Portland game last year), and has the best pass-first/shoot-first switch in his head. Great speed-- not as fast as Wall or Rose, but due to his body, once he gets moving he is like a freight train.
-Wall and Rose are cut from the same mold. Grossly athletic but less PG minded. Need to work on jumpshooting. Wall has had a lot of turnovers, but it might just be rookie jitters and crappy players fumbling his passes.
-Rondo won't be as good once the big three aren't on his team anymore.
-CeePee3 is small and overrated. Gambles like a mother on defense but hey, it makes his boxscore look good.
-I like the strides Westbrook has made. I watched him a lot last year and have watched most of their games this year. I don't think he will be "elite" tier when all is said and done, but he is a good compliment to Durrant's amazingness.
-DWill is the man. Obviously I could be biased, but I don't really think so. He has the best body, is capable of being a great defender (remember the Portland game last year), and has the best pass-first/shoot-first switch in his head. Great speed-- not as fast as Wall or Rose, but due to his body, once he gets moving he is like a freight train.
vslice02
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This.
I'm amazed at how alot of people on jazzfanz constantly criticize their own all-stars and overvalue other teams' players. Okur's alot more popular now that he's injured than when he was playing every night. Even putting aside the silly injuries, when Boozer was on the floor alot of people here never appreciated how good he really was. Now the slightest thing goes wrong and it's Deron's fault. Deron hasn't gotten better in 2 years. Deron doesn't start games hot. Deron can't score 30 when Fisher's essentially playing bump-and-run coverage on him and still getting every flop call. Deron shouldn't have yelled at Hayward. John Wall in a couple years? Please. This reminds me of the mid-90's when they said the next Karl Malone was going to be Shawn Kemp, and then Vin Baker with Seattle, and then Brian Grant with Portland, and Malone kept rolling and 5 years later all those other guys had been traded and Malone was still an all-star. Until it actually happens their potential ain't worth a damn.
damn ****in straight