why are we so bad at grabbing defensive rebounds?

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The Jazz are dead last in defensive rebound rate. https://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/teamstats/_/sort/defReboundRate

What's going on here? I know Kanter has been very underwhelming in this respect, but what else is failing? Is this a desire/motivation problem?

 

[franklin]

Same reason.

 

[jope]

i dont know the calc methods of the stat, but does it take into account that we seem to give up a high opp fg%, thus reducing our opportunities for def rebs?

 

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i dont know the calc methods of the stat, but does it take into account that we seem to give up a high opp fg%, thus reducing our opportunities for def rebs?

No.

Rebound Rate - the percentage of missed shots that a team rebounds. Rebound Rate = (Rebounds x Team Minutes) divided by [Player Minutes x (Team Rebounds + Opponent Rebounds)]

 

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Same reason.

So, um, we're bad at rebounding because we're dropping guys down to help with D and rebounding??

Are you saying that these guys, when dropped down, are in bad rebounding position?

Connect the dots for me.

 

[Darkwing Duck]

Heh, didn't notice you posted this when I responded about rebound rate in the other thread.

Looks like the Phoenix game brought us out of the cellar in O rating, putting us at 27th.

Still worst in defensive efficiency, though, and it isn't close. You should make a thread on that if you haven't already by the time I post this.

 

[franklin]

So, um, we're bad at rebounding because we're dropping guys down to help with D and rebounding??

Are you saying that these guys, when dropped down, are in bad rebounding position?

Connect the dots for me.

Watch the video on stats.nba.com of all of Plumlee's shots against the Jazz the last two games. The center has to help way too much, and Favors has been a lazy *** doing it by coming so late that he's ineffective. The backside(usually right side of the court) is wide open to them for rebounds. Jazz can bring a wing off the left side to help too, but that leaves a three wide open and one less guy to run the break. Rebounding from that spot only helps much if the driver shoots and misses, but it's an easy shot which is why the wing has to dump down so deep in the first place. Missed shots from his three coverage usually go to the other side of the floor, the space where the offense is in position to rebound from b/c the Jazz center helped on the driver.

The Jazz are terrible at over helping too. They send two guys when only one is needed, and open up wide shots by doing so.

They could also do a better job of fake helping then switching the wing and corner defensive assignments. Hayward has been garbage at rotating though so it wouldn't work without his commitment.

 

[LogGrad98]

Playing defense generates defensive rebounds. Ergo.....

 

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Playing defense generates defensive rebounds. Ergo.....

I agree with you, but defensive rebounding rate isn't influenced by made baskets. In other words, we suck at rebounding the few shots that are missed.

 

[LogGrad98]

I agree with you, but defensive rebounding rate isn't influenced by made baskets. In other words, we suck at rebounding the few shots that are missed.

Playing defense does not just generate missed shots. It also puts you in better positions to get to those misses. When we are not playing within an effectual defensive schema we are neither generating missed shots, nor putting our players in a position to mop up after what missed shots there are.

 

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Playing defense does not just generate missed shots. It also puts you in better positions to get to those misses. When we are not playing within an effectual defensive schema we are neither generating missed shots, nor putting our players in a position to mop up after what missed shots there are.

I said I agreed with you.

My point was that this holistic vision, on which you and I agree, isn't directly measured by the stat that I used above. That's all.

 

[LogGrad98]

I said I agreed with you.

My point was that this holistic vision, on which you and I agree, isn't directly measured by the stat that I used above. That's all.

Most stats are limited.

 

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Most stats are limited.

disagree. All stats have limitations.

 

[fgcamel]

I think i saw a stat recently that said kanter has the best rate of getting rebounds available to him in the league. or something like that. or maybe nothing like that. what the **** do i know i'm just some guy.

 

[LogGrad98]

disagree. All stats have limitations.

If I had the time I am sure I could look something up that shows something, or something, but I really don't care enough to even finish thi

 

[fgcamel]

I think i saw a stat recently that said kanter has the best rate of getting rebounds available to him in the league. or something like that. or maybe nothing like that. what the **** do i know i'm just some guy.

https://stats.nba.com/playerTrackin...5&sortField=REB_UNCONTESTED_PCT&sortOrder=DES

Contested rebound percentage. He just needs to have more of a focus on going after them. especially since this team doesn't know what a fast break is anyway