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Why didn't the Jazz keep Millsap around?

Stifle Tower said:
It's the Quin effect. DMC was a high intensity player but he had no range and was just an average defender. He took a lot of chances on defense. Snyder molded him into not only a starter, but a very good one. Would DMC have developed on defense and as a shooter under Ty? I doubt it.
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DeMarr was in Atlanta for 2013 season. Quin became head coach for Jazz in June 2014.
 
Stifle Tower said:
It's the Quin effect. DMC was a high intensity player but he had no range and was just an average defender. He took a lot of chances on defense. Snyder molded him into not only a starter, but a very good one. Would DMC have developed on defense and as a shooter under Ty? I doubt it.
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I don't think that we can thank Quinn for developing Carroll during their 1 shared year in Atlanta. Carroll was showing signs of who he was and who he was becoming while still with Utah. We didn't have him for range, we had him for defense. And when someone is taking chances on defense that means that they are growing in that area. You have to make mistakes to learn from them. Carroll was doing everything his last year in Utah that was important but doesn't show up on the stat sheet. He reminded me of a player from the 90's with his out of control defense. There is a stat for how many shots you block but there isn't one for how many shots you interrupt. He was becoming a very very good defender with us and was worth keeping around. If you do credit a coach to his development, credit Carroll as a man first. Then you would have to credit the entire Hawks organization, not just one assistant coach.
 
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Yes, you do have to credit DMC for working hard to improve, But Carroll gives a lot of the credit to Quin, who worked with him one-on-one. Just go back to many of the articles when Quin was a candidate (or newly hired by Utah). DMC's comments are in those articles and he defintely says Snyder deserves a ton of credit.

Here, I found this:


Former Jazz man/current Hawk DeMarre Carroll gives high praise to Quin Snyder during exit interview

Q. How do you personally assess your growth as a player?

A. I think I did really well. This is like the first year – I have to give a shout out to coach Quin (Snyder) – this is the first year a coach really worked with me on my footwork, my shot, spent time with me. That’s a credit to coach Quin. That shows me that he cares about me as a person, cares about me career. I think I’m headed in the right direction. I feel like a rookie. I finally got to play and do what I do. There is a lot of room for growth for me. I’m just trying to get better.
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Source
https://www.ajc.com/weblogs/atlanta-h...marre-carroll/
 
Stifle Tower said:
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Yes, you do have to credit DMC for working hard to improve, But Carroll gives a lot of the credit to Quin, who worked with him one-on-one. Just go back to many of the articles when Quin was a candidate (or newly hired by Utah). DMC's comments are in those articles and he defintely says Snyder deserves a ton of credit.

Here, I found this:


Former Jazz man/current Hawk DeMarre Carroll gives high praise to Quin Snyder during exit interview

Source
https://www.ajc.com/weblogs/atlanta-h...marre-carroll/
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I recall reading this during the summer. Hopefully Quin is working with Sap in much the same way
 
Thee jazz fan said:
I just don't understand why the Jazz didn't see what we saw, he was turning into a nice 3 & D player
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Could be that DMC wanted a chance to start. And he wasn't going to get that with Hayward and Burks as the wings. But I disagree he was turning into a "3 & D" player with Utah. He was a 4-yr player who only shot 29% on his 3's in his first full season with Utah. The season before - between Denver and Utah - he had a better percentage but it was an insignificant sample size.

Carroll BECAME a very good 3&D player by working with Quin for a season. Paul Millsap also speaks very highly of Quin, although Paul had a much more developed game. We should probably be very happy DMC went to Atlanta and improved so much. It was a very nice accomplishment by Quin that added a real feather to his cap. I'm sure that didn't go unnoticed as Lindsey was evaluating head coaching candidates.

It's just a shame Atlanta is so good. I don't think there's a chance DMC would return even if he were offered $7-$8M. Plus, that would shift Hair Gordon back to SG and put Alec on the bench. Probably not where we want to go.
 
Stifle Tower said:
By the time the Jazz are ready to contend, he'll be starting to slide.
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lol. when exactly will dat be, bro?
by the time da jazz are ready to contend, we'll all be slidin, slidin 6 feet into our graves.
srsly tho. when will the perpetual rebuild end? when will the jazz contend? a goal without a timeline is just a dream.
or in dis case, a nightmare.
 
I think pursuing DMC at about four years, 25-28M range would be an interesting choice. He started here. He has a good relationship with Quin. He knows our system. He could be the 3&D guy we need.

What are people's thoughts? 4 years and how much money? If we got him, do we comfortable with sliding Hayward to the 2?
 
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