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Why doesn't Favors have a go to move?

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Listening to D. Locke recently, I was a bit surprised to hear him liken Favors to Tyson Chandler, i.e., great D but limited O. My gut says Favors is already a better offensive player, that is, he has more hope of scoring on his own. It is abundantly clear that he needs to develop his offense, and I was particularly impressed with his passing against the Lakers (4 assists). Here's the question, why in the hell does he not have ONE go to move? It's not like this is rocket science. He has to have ONE go to move. Can someone smarter than I am explain why this has not happened?

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One go-to move without a counter move quickly becomes no go-to moves. This is after the fact that not every giant has the talent-level to just waltz into the highest level of competition on earth and score.
 
Also, once upon a time, this team didn't need players to have a go-to move, per se in terms of having the ball in their hands. Favors has always struck me as a guy that works well in right-place/right-time scenarios (PnR, baseline positioning).
 
NUMBERICA said:
Also, once upon a time, this team didn't need players to have a go-to move, per se in terms of having the ball in their hands. Favors has always struck me as a guy that works well in right-place/right-time scenarios (PnR, baseline positioning).
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This is my feeling as well. I think Favors makes a great compliment to a player who needs the ball more (Kanter, Jefferson), precisely because his iso game is not great. He can score easy putbacks and off the PnR and average 12-15 a game in his prime.

If he happens to develop a go-to move, I think he can be a superstar.
 
Because while Kanter hired Kiki to teach him footwork and post moves, Favors was in the ATL playing pick-up games and working out with some 6-4 gaurd dude (I can't remember his name, but he played maybe 5 years in the nba on several teams).

A go to move would be great, but any kind of move would have been better than what he brought back.
 
Because Favor's offensive feel just isn't that good.

Millsap didn't have a go-to move until what, his 4th year? (The step-back jumper)
 
mellow said:
Because while Kanter hired Kiki to teach him footwork and post moves, Favors was in the ATL playing pick-up games and working out with some 6-4 gaurd dude (I can't remember his name, but he played maybe 5 years in the nba on several teams).

A go to move would be great, but any kind of move would have been better than what he brought back.
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I agree with this as well. I was a bit surprised at how tentative he was in his first two games. I'm also wondering at how much initiative he takes over the summer to improve his basketball game, but I have know idea. I just don't see where he's improved offensively at all.
 
Bad hands, clumsy feet. I actually think he's pretty fantastic positioning himself in a position to succeed, and has moved well off the ball so far this preseason. He's mostly been playing with Al, and as such is limited to transition and free throw line jumpers when Al draws attention. Dude needs to hit open 15-footers more consistently. He's probably not ever going to be a 20+ ppg player, unless he's playing on a team that pushes the ball like crazy and has a terrific PnR point guard. With more ball movement, he can excel cutting to the basket when the defense relaxes, facing up and exploding to the rim along the baseline and, again, in the pick and roll.
 
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I think his feel for the game, in general, is very good. Second among Jazz bigs (behind Millsap, ahead of Jefferson and Kanter). He just has Kwame hands.
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His feel for defense is great. His positioning on offense is so-so. His hands seem to be fine to me (in terms of catching the ball), his feel around the rim is kind of average though, if that is what you mean by "Kwame hands".
 
Maybe all of this explains why Nets were so willing to give him up for DWill.
Nets could see he was not going to be the surefire allstar he was projected to be.
 
What exactly would be wrong with Favors becoming a Chandler-type? Future number one option on this Jazz team is either Hayward(more likely) or Burks(less likely).

Last thing I'd want for Favors is some sort of a Ewing scenario where you decide that a man who was destined to win DPOYs over and over needs to be an offensive force as well, ending up with a player who was neither, that you are then forced to build around.
 
Given the respective skill sets of the 4 young'uns, the Jazz are going to need a hell of a point guard unless Kanter and Burks explode. I just don't see Favors or Hayward becoming elite offensive forces that draw enough attention from opposing defenses to score efficiently in isos and/or create easy buckets for their teammates with any regularity. With that said, I think it's far more likely Hayward and Favors are starters on good teams for 10+ years than Burks and Kanter are. That is, Hayward and Favors are already players who fill a lot of holes every team needs filled (defense, transition play, team play in general). Kanter and Burks are far less well-rounded, lacking the same feel for the game that Hayward and Favors have, but possess rare and valuable physical ability/skills at their respective positions that, if harnessed/developed, could make them all-stars.
 
because Favors always relied and still relies on his athleticism, and that works for Favs on the defensive end in the NBA but not the offensive end, unlike Kanter had to develop a mid range game because he quickly realized he isn't more athletic then most the NBA, so he can't just rely on that anymore, Kanter could when he was playing against soft euros in his teens. So, I just don't see Favors developing a potent mid range game because his athleticism will keep him in the league and keep the money flowing his direction, if Favors was that concerned about it he would of worked harder in the offseason on his post moves a little more with different advisers (ie. like Kanter did with different coaches this offseason).
 
I think a little blame goes to Favors, his teammates and the coaching staff. I wish Favors would be a little more aggressive, but at the same time, I am not seeing him getting many opportunities. He has been playing next to Al who is always in the post getting the ball. Where is there room for him?
 
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Kwame hands. Dude can get to the basket when he faces up, he just can't finish very well.
 
After watching his insane improvement in such a short window over the 2nd half last season, I have plenty of hope. I'm not expecting any type of back to the basket improvement this season, but I'd love to see a semi-reliable 8-12 foot jumper and a lot of improvement on recognizing and finishing the PnR. Anything that makes me believe he's on some sort of an Amare track.
 
Raw athletic ability and wingspan aren't everything, otherwise Jeremy Evans would be an all star by now. I am not sure what is wrong, but I agree with some of the things that have been said. Me personally I think it's mental, and mental things are a tough thing to crack. The good news is that the Jazz get to decide whether to match or not, or maybe they offer an extension. Unfortunately, if he doesn't develop, then the Jazz are in a bit of a pickle, having a talented player who will likely make too much money based on potential. (AK anyone?)
 
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