Why doesn't infraction lead to decreased Rep power?

Discussion in 'Site Feedback' started by ONE LOVE, Dec 28, 2012.

  1. ONE LOVE

    ONE LOVE #Baby_Talk Staff Member

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    Well yes and no.. I see this life as a testing ground for us.. there's life far beyond this life. What kind of life that will be will depend largely on what you do right here and now.

    Does that answer your question?
     
  2. Gyp Rosetti

    Gyp Rosetti Banned

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    Everything is real life, even our dreams, and most of all, death.
     
  3. ONE LOVE

    ONE LOVE #Baby_Talk Staff Member

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    Hmm.. I meant take rep power away from those getting infractions or those who have been destructive in their behavior.

    All I'm saying is better management or control of Rep power in conjunction with Banning would be ideal.
     
  4. Gyp Rosetti

    Gyp Rosetti Banned

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    And again, a ton of people don't give a **** about that. I don't and I doubt HH or Dutch or many others do.
     
  5. ONE LOVE

    ONE LOVE #Baby_Talk Staff Member

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    Then please explain to me why I get Neg -10 rep from Dutch everytime I utter the word "Jefferson" in a positive way?

    If he doesn't give a **** please explain to me why he does that.
     
  6. Gyp Rosetti

    Gyp Rosetti Banned

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    That doesn't mean he cares about his own rep power and if it's reduced. Hell, for all we know, reducing it may simply incite him. So in short, neg repping will not necessarily curtail his actions. Infractions, and ultimately a ban, will. I'm not sure what's tough to understand about that.
     
  7. ONE LOVE

    ONE LOVE #Baby_Talk Staff Member

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    It may not matter to him, but for a new poster joining this site, to suddenly get a neg rep -10 from someone like Dutch, I'm pretty sure it'll make that new poster think twice about posting or even coming back to JazzFanz.
     
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  8. Zulu

    Zulu Well-Known Member

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    Or is this just fantasy??
     
  9. bigb

    bigb Free at last!!! Contributor

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    Maybe it's a dream within a dream.
     
  10. Dr. Jones

    Dr. Jones In pursuit of #9 Contributor

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    I watched this a while to see where it ended up and ... good Lord, there's a lot of negging that needs to be done here (I don't neg).

    Please name names. Who was neg-repping you and what makes you so sure it wasn't just because your posts were terrible?

    Who's 'they?' I'm taking no personal offense, btw, but this thread seems to be much more valuable with specific examples of specific posters. Otherwise, it just sounds extremely whiny and, as bigb said, high school girlish.

    Once again, what exactly is rep breeding and what weak-minded ******* have been run off by others rep?

    So who are these alts they've allowed to go on and on?? (you guys seeing the trend in my questioning yet? I'll continue)

    So people with high rep have some exclusive license to starting stupid threads? Nope. I think stupid threads are started by about every level of rep power.
    I don't at all feel anyone is pointing a finger at me, btw, but I will say that I have ZERO open infractions. Slate is clean. I'd be curious to know of the last, say, 20 infractions, the average rep power of those receiving them.
    I DO believe there is a real problem of too many posters immediately running off a new poster (assuming they're an alt) and this would be a true concern of mine if I was an owner of the site .. and I like seeing new posters, myself.

    This is a generally good post. There has certainly been some rep-whoring by some considered the STG group. Funny thing though is that the two most obvious culprits of this aren't from STG and have never met up for a game with the rest of us, but are generally considered part of this 'group.'
    I have never once asked for rep, for the record.

    *reached my limit on the multi-quoting ... going back in..*
     
  11. Dr. Jones

    Dr. Jones In pursuit of #9 Contributor

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    Friendly and sincere question. How do the mods crack down better on alts? Are you aware of specific alts being allowed to freely post as a multi-account? I'm just looking for REAL examples of all this supposed abuse being spewn in this thread.

    What would you like, specifically, to see from these new mods? What positive changes do you think they may make?
    One change that may be positive would be to watch the neg-repping. See if anyone seems to be abusing it and unnecessarily singling someone out. It's okay to neg if sincere and deserved, but (imo) not just as feud or to incite agenda.

    So now I agree. However, this has a whole different tone than the OP. This is about bad behavior and not about simply posters with high rep.

    Removal of rep power wouldn't change my posting style in the least. I do think the overall concept of the site works and the issues that were raised here are much more isolated than people think. The only thing that bugs me about rep-whoring is it bugs me ("REP ME!!!!") .. but so what, I don't get why anyone should leave the site over something so trivial.
    The big issue, as I see it, is attacking new posters... that, more than anything, makes for a duller site. I personally know two people that only posted about a dozen times and were so frustrated with the onslaught of BS they lost interest in a hurry (and both of these guys would offer very good chat about Jazz bb).

    Maybe this kind of thing can be reported and a new policy can come into play??? I don't know, that would bug me too..

    ... and again, this would be my concern far more than rep-whoring or an occasional neg.
     
  12. Chris-L

    Chris-L Well-Known Member

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    rep'd
     
  13. Chris-L

    Chris-L Well-Known Member

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    nevermind i cant rep you yet. we really need more stg posters so i can rep pKm more often.
     
  14. UGLI baby

    UGLI baby Well-Known Member

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    I just negged PKM cuz his posts were way long and cuz he's my alt.
     
  15. Chris-L

    Chris-L Well-Known Member

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    I'm gonna pos rep him 2 more time to make up for it, and then triple neg you cause I hate your beard. Maybe next time you will think twice.
     
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  16. Dr. Jones

    Dr. Jones In pursuit of #9 Contributor

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    Stop cluttering up my reply in this thread. I'm serious guys. This is NOT the time and place.
    We are talking about the health and well-being of JazzFanz.
     
  17. bigb

    bigb Free at last!!! Contributor

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    I'll address these two points:
    There are a couple systems in place to try and crack down on alts. Jason has installed some software to help with this. I'm not going to disclose what they are so as to not make it easier for the few (I believe there are only a few who have managed to successfully have an alt for more than a couple days/posts with this current software) people who want alts to do it.
    Mods have zero access to other people's reps. Jason and colton can see everything on this board, that's it. If rep is questioned, they have to look into it and then the rest of us vote on it. NOBODY actively tracks reps given, positive or negative. I don't think anybody would want that job, either. That would literally make me want to rip my eyeballs out.
    The only thing I can say about the rep crap is this: If you feel you are being unfairly targeted, report it. I am starting to feel rep is more of a pain in the *** than it's worth. But then again, I think it's kind of pointless.
     
  18. Dr. Jones

    Dr. Jones In pursuit of #9 Contributor

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    This.
     
  19. NAOS

    NAOS Well-Known Member

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    I reported my regular (as in at least twice weekly) neg repping from Cyrone Torbin and was never given a reply.... At least not that I remember. The mods certainly didn't reverse the reps or inform me that Cy had been warned, so IF I got a reply it was pretty meek/unsatisfactory.
     
  20. bigb

    bigb Free at last!!! Contributor

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    We never inform the person reporting it of the result.
     

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