Miggs
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Link?
Why is Rudy so spastic when he gets the ball in position to shoot during a game?
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I'd rather not rummage around just to find a link, but I'm positive they sent Alex Jensen (assistant coach), a trainer, and maybe even a massage therapist with Rudy to France. They did the same stuff w/ Exum, Neto, and Pleiss last year. Not sure if Neto got it again this year.
Lakers_Slapper
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I am not trying to sound old school, but if Gobert developed a "sky hook" it would not only add value to the Jazz and to him, but it would open up his game a hell of a lot more. The sky hook is not used because it is not taught like it used to be. It could still be a very valuable part of a teams offense if executed through the right guy. WE HAVE THE RIGHT GUY!!
Miggs
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Found it. Thanks.
In short, and call me a pessimist, but I think we've seen the best we'll ever see of Gobert. I don't think he'll ever improve on offense. And defensively I'm not sure he'll get better per se. I think he is what he is.
Stifle Tower
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You're not a pessimist CL; you're a realist. Rudy didn't show any development last season. His shooting was actually worse. He is what he is: a rim protector and rebounder, who is only reliable for put backs and alley-oops on offense. And, tbh, he's not that great a rebounder. He gets them because of his length, but can often get pushed out of position or underneath the net by stronger, aggressive opponents.
Whatever came of the supposed conyract talks between DL and his agent? Jazz may feel they have no choice, but DL will probably end up paying max to 3 players who are just fringe or even non-Allstars.
Whatever came of the supposed conyract talks between DL and his agent? Jazz may feel they have no choice, but DL will probably end up paying max to 3 players who are just fringe or even non-Allstars.
For those looking for a source:
https://purpleandblues.com/2016/07/...is-diaw-getting-royal-treatment-for-olympics/
Ellipse
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It's pretty hard to develop your game when you spend every summer playing for a national coach who couldn't care less about your NBA career. We need Gobert to bulk up and develop some (any) offensive skill. The French coach isn't going to have him long enough to do a thing for his strength or shot, so he will just make do with Gobert as a skinny rim protector. And that is all Rudy will be to the Jazz until he decides to take his off-season training seriously and quit wasting his summers playing for his national team.
Miggs
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The last thing Rudy needs to do is bulk up. He needs to remain as quick and bouncy as he can, which is maybe average right now. We don't need to slow him down or more prone to injury.
Gobert spending a month practicing with the French team isn't going to impede his development that much. Like I already said, the Jazz send a coach, trainer, and massage therapist with him. I'm sure his team has practices where they work on plays and then he goes with Alex Jensen and works on skill development and then to his training for weight training.
They spent a total of what ,2 weeks in Brazil? So he had about 2 weeks of time where he probably didnt work w/ the Jazz. And it's not like you play that many games during the Olympics (or many minutes). He has another 2 months before the season starts, he will be fine.
I think people just got their expectations way too high after his breakout year, which was essentially his rookie season with how little he played under Corbin his actual rookie year. He hit a slump this year (not to mention a knee injury) and people see that he spent time with France this season and automatically assume that the time spent with the French team caused the lackluster season (even though he was still true to his calling card of being a top rim protector).
Ellipse
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From the start of last season to the very end, he was not the Rudy we saw during his breakout year. That isn't a slump, that's regression. Now you may be correct in saying it had nothing to do with playing for his national team, but if that's the case then I guess CL is right saying Rudy is what he is.
Ellipse
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LOL I wasn't suggesting that he add 50 pounds, but 10 to 15 pounds of muscle would not hurt.
Nah, he was still Rudy. Still had the best rim protection numbers in the NBA. He was slowed by a knee injury (also the whole becoming a full time starter vs starting to get major minutes halfway through the season and having more developed scouting reports against him), that was really the only difference. Sophomore slumps are a common thing, it's not regression by any means.
framer
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Not having Exum really hurt Gobert. If you get the pass up high, in front of him, Gobert can do things, especially if he is moving to the basket. If you play around with bounce passes or throwing the ball at his waist in the high post while he is stationary, Rudy isn't so good. There is almost no reason to ever bounce pass to Rudy. Exum understands this. Our point guard play sucked sooooo hard last year. Here is a reminder of what Rudy can do with aggressive point play and a team that wants to move downhill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQykFxjlFz0
Of course they did because this is part and parcel of being an over-zealous fan. It happens every year. I've learned to temper my expectations over the years. Who knows what Gobert will become but I hope for the best.
His regression had three parts: (1) injury recovery (2) gameplanning offenses around him and (3) actual regression. He did not have the same energy or enthusiasm for the game.
0 actual regression.
Miggs
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How did Favors numbers year-over-year compare? Were his drastically better and Gobert was therefore aided by them, making Rudy look as if he played as great last year as he did in 14-15?