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Why our target MIGHT be DeMarre and not Millsap

DMC is a good hustle player whose body will breakdown before the end of the contract and whatever team will be left with Gerald Wallace II. DMC should get a raise but he was borderline all star in the Atlanta system... I don't think he will be as effective (at least offensively) in another system. If a team pays him $15m, they are crazy. He should be in the $6-8m ran and that is still a 300% raise.
 
Jeffrey32 said:
DMC is a good hustle player whose body will breakdown before the end of the contract and whatever team will be left with Gerald Wallace II. DMC should get a raise but he was borderline all star in the Atlanta system... I don't think he will be as effective (at least offensively) in another system. If a team pays him $15m, they are crazy. He should be in the $6-8m ran and that is still a 300% raise.
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You mean the system Quin helped develop?
 
Stifle Tower said:
Max might be a little much. But others spoke of throwing a max offer at Middleton. I don't think DMC is worth any less. He's an elite defender and averaged 15/6 on 49%/40%. He averaged 20 pts in the playoffs before injuring his toe in the Cavs series.

Utah should at least put pressure on the Hawks. If Atlanta doesn't sign DMC before Millsap, they'll lose him.

I find the "leak" that came from Checketts VERY suspicious. The Jazz organization is historically very tight-lipped. DL hasn't shown anything to the contrary. Unless Spencer is trying to end media relations with the Jazz, the Millsap leak was either a trial balloon or disinformation.
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OMG. We have 3 really good wings already and u want to throw that kind of money at Carroll?! What the hell is wrong with u!!
 
gregbroncs said:
Frankly I'm baffled why the talk has turned to players that don't really fit any of our team needs. I like both Carroll and Millsap (obviously not as much as some here) but neither of them really upgrade our roster enough to warrant the contracts they would require.
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Because of those reason I have no interest in either one of these player. Frankly if they had not played in Utah they would not even be on the lips of Jazz fans because acquiring either of them makes very little sense relative to the amount they will cost.
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consider me baffled by the love Jazz fans have for ex-Jazz players. We have talked seriously about wanting, Deron, Mathews, Millsap, and Carroll. None of those players fit this current team. None of them should even be considered for this roster. Frankly I'd be pretty well pissed off if the Jazz spent any real amount of money on any of those players.
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Ummm, every last one of those guys fit our system. Not saying we should sign them, but other then Deron I'd love to have all of those guys. We shouldn't sign them because we are deep on the wing and Millsap wants to start.
 
As much as I love DMC & wanted to retain him, the money that it would likely take to sign him would be better spent on a PG &/or C (depending on who we draft). I would love to see DMC, Millsap, & Matthews all back in Utah someday, but other than maybe Matthews (due to the fact that he might come at a discount & be willing to sign a short-term deal because of his injury), this off-season is not the right time for a reunion, as great as it would be.
 
3y 10-12 Million for DMC max. And thats overpaying, but Jazz are able to do it and still be flexible for 2018 when they need it. Don't want the Jazz to sign anyone longer than 3 years.
 
If the Jazz had kept both players at the contracts they got from Atlanta, and the Jazz had the opportunity to retain them after the success they've had over the last 2 seasons. . . who would you keep (factoring in the current roster) and at what price. If Carroll had stayed, he'd have become a starter next to Hayward under Snyder. Of this, I have no doubt. Considering how he finished off the season, I'd be willing to bet that Jazz fans would likely prefer to keep Carroll and let Millsap walk. And that we'd be willing to pt him starter money to do so. While we do have 4 solid wings (love me some Jingles too), IF the Jazz can get Carroll for a market value deal - not an overpay - market value. I'd absolutely be all for it. He helps the team immediately and improves the already solid defense. Hood and Burks highlight the bench, and hopefully compete with each other to be 6th man of the year.
 
sgjazzfan said:
3y 10-12 Million for DMC max. And thats overpaying, but Jazz are able to do it and still be flexible for 2018 when they need it. Don't want the Jazz to sign anyone longer than 3 years.
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Forgive my "throw the max at him" insanity. $12M is probably tops, but I'd offer 4 years. But here's the other consideration...in two more years Hayward is going to have the option to opt out and seek a 30% contract. Do we really want to pay Hayward $25M-$30M to stay? We WILL be paying Gobert that kind of money (or someone else will!). At that point, having DMC at $12M-$13M would be an extreme bargain. Hood could start at SG and Burks may/may not be on the team given his salary.

Given our salary space for the next couple of seasons, Jazz should pursue Carroll or Millsap (but only if Paul would be willing to come off the bench). Who else are we going to spend money on? Durant?
 
NUMBERICA said:
The Jazz don't have a player whose primary role is to defend the opposing team's best perimeter player. Meanwhile, Trey chucking Burke gets to play basketball.

There is plenty for the Jazz to want out of Carroll. ****ing plenty. Just because you have some weird axe to grind doesn't change that.
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I love Carroll the player. I was pissed when he left. He is going to get PAID this off season. I think his impact on the team would be minimal compared to his eventual salary. That is the reason I don't think he fits for this team.
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I agree about Burks I think he should be gone. And a replacement is not really a requirement but would be nice. I see Cotton and Burks fully capable of replacing Burke.
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So we are not far off on Carroll.....I just can't see him being worth the money he's going to get with regards to our current roster.
 
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