Plus the grab Love and Rondo and are mirred in mediocrity for the next 10 years.
Why we shouldn't stand pat in the draft
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Plus the grab Love and Rondo and are mirred in mediocrity for the next 10 years.
I actually like staying at 12 and taking Oubre if he's there. I think he could start next to Exum and add to our length, athleticism and rebounding off the bat, though the rest of his game is raw. I would be okay with Portis or Lyles, and might be okay with Looney, Dekker or Booker. Those are players that would stick in an 8-man rotation.
I think the best move is to offer 12 + a player + a future pick to Denver and Detroit to move up to 7 or 8, which would put us in range for one of Hezonja, Porzingis or Winslow. If Detroit can come out of this draft with Turner + Burke + a future pick, they might do it...though they might want Hood instead of Burke.
One important thing to consider is that this year matters--we have a limited time window to add young talent next to the young core we're developing, namely Exum, Gobert, Hayward. I think we need to add something substantial this year, so we can develop them within a couple years. I'm looking ahead to Hayward re-signing with the Jazz if we're close to contending. (Contending means top 4 in the west.)
If Boston offers 16 + 28 for 12 + a 2nd, I'd think about it, taking Lyles/Payne/Portis at 16 and taking Vezenkov or Harrell if he's there at 28.
I think the best move is to offer 12 + a player + a future pick to Denver and Detroit to move up to 7 or 8, which would put us in range for one of Hezonja, Porzingis or Winslow. If Detroit can come out of this draft with Turner + Burke + a future pick, they might do it...though they might want Hood instead of Burke.
One important thing to consider is that this year matters--we have a limited time window to add young talent next to the young core we're developing, namely Exum, Gobert, Hayward. I think we need to add something substantial this year, so we can develop them within a couple years. I'm looking ahead to Hayward re-signing with the Jazz if we're close to contending. (Contending means top 4 in the west.)
If Boston offers 16 + 28 for 12 + a 2nd, I'd think about it, taking Lyles/Payne/Portis at 16 and taking Vezenkov or Harrell if he's there at 28.
karl malone
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Just to clarify, I agree that we should move up in the draft if it is possible to do so without giving up any of our core players (Exum, Hood, Hayward, Favors, Gobert- although I would consider trading Hood in a package to move up for Russell depending on what else had to be included). The point I was trying to make in my original post was if that's not a possibility, that we should trade down rather than remain at #12. I would prefer whoever is left out of Oubre, Kaminsky, Portis, Turner, Looney, Lyles, D.Booker, any of the PG's, etc + a future draft pick instead of our choice of the group. Imo, the talent level in the #10-20 range is close enough that we would be best served moving down & continuing to stockpile assets for a future trade if we are unable to move up.
My order of preference (depending on the price):
1. Move up for Russell
2. Move up for 1 of Mudiay/Hezonja/Winslow
3. Move up for 1 of Johnson/Porzingis/WCS
4. Trade down (to the late teens/early 20's) & acquire another future 1st round pick
5. Stand pat at #12 & draft bpa
My order of preference (depending on the price):
1. Move up for Russell
2. Move up for 1 of Mudiay/Hezonja/Winslow
3. Move up for 1 of Johnson/Porzingis/WCS
4. Trade down (to the late teens/early 20's) & acquire another future 1st round pick
5. Stand pat at #12 & draft bpa
Can we move up for a chance at a player that might be Kanter?
I'm not a fan of buying overpriced merchandise. Draft picks are the definition of that. I'd rather trade down and find a Rudy, a Rondo, a Ginobili, a Kawhi. We'd have a much better chance swapping a #9 for a #14 and #21 than the other way around.
I'm not a fan of buying overpriced merchandise. Draft picks are the definition of that. I'd rather trade down and find a Rudy, a Rondo, a Ginobili, a Kawhi. We'd have a much better chance swapping a #9 for a #14 and #21 than the other way around.
mellow
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At first I bristled at your suggestion. Conventional wisdom suggests you stay put and draft the player you want. But if Lindsey believes that he can outsmart everyone in the late first round --Rudy an Rodney suggest he can, and if he believes that his teams strength is developing young players--as he stated this morning on 1280, then your idea seems more reasonable.
It's all situational. If you're moving up for Deron or CP3 in an obviously loaded draft then pull the trigger. If you're moving up in a bad draft like Trey then you're gambling point blank. It's usually a crap shoot and I'd rather have numbers on my side if that's the case.