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Will Hardy Extension

HadAnEffectHere said:
Okay, but he lead the team to back to back last place finishes and none of the guys ever play hard for him.

He had very few opportunities to show much over the last three years but the results are really bad, lol.

Good move for Hardy as he was being pretty obviously set up as a scapegoat for Ainge to use and the Jazz have basically ruined his career for other teams. But a six year extension coming off back to back last place finishes in defense, an 18 win season, and dozens of press conferences complaining that he can't get young players to try is completely unprecedented.
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Ruined his career? He could have had the Spurs job if he wanted lmfao
 
Ferguson_Mellochill said:
The players like him and respond to him. That's important at this stage of the rebuild. He also seems to get the most he can from the talent he's had to work with.
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But like... When do they respond to him?

Hardy's only notable press conferences this year were him complaining about how Sensabaugh and Keyonte don't play hard for him.

Hardy's major success this season was getting everyone on the team to mail in the season.
 
HadAnEffectHere said:
But like... When do they respond to him?

Hardy's only notable press conferences this year were him complaining about how Sensabaugh and Keyonte don't play hard for him.

Hardy's major success this season was getting everyone on the team to mail in the season.
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Amidst the tanking, there were some real positives. Walker had a really solid season, leading the league in blocks, FG% and offensive rebounds. He was consistent all year. Brice has come a long way with improving his body, playing faster, moving the ball, and showing at least some effort on defense. Filipowski got the freedom to show a lot of his game towards the end of the year. John Collins had a career year and was a good soldier. And yeah, Will masterfully steered the Jazz to the worst record in the league.
 
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I like this extension. Offensively, I think he can be a good coach. Defensively, it's really hard to judge bc of two factors: firstly, Jazz has been tanking either half the season or the whole season all his time with Jazz, and secondly, Jazz have had awful guard pairings defensively. Clarkson, Sexton and George are all either too small, too bad or too unwilling in defensive end. Sexton shows heart at times but he's not just good or big enough. Collier might become a help, but I don't think the focus next season is go develop a defensive identity any sorts. Jazz wants another top five pick.

The traffic in and out with the roster has also been wild. So many starting lineup changes, so many new guys. 23-24 Kessler also had some nagging issues physically that halted his development so I wouldn't count any of that on Hardy as someone seems to be doing. Jazz team needs a lot of pieces and green light to actually try to win to get us the full picture of Hardy. It didn't look bad at all the last time he had it. Jazz run few months of very exciting basketball before the 23-24 trade deadline, when the rug was pulled under the team.
 
homeytennis said:
Are we excited or not? I think this portends at least one more season of the tank.
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I don’t know if I’ve ever been excited about the news of the head coach being extended other than being glad or upset, but never excited. That’s reserved for big trades, signings or winning the lottery but certainly not for a coach extension. Just saying.
 
Maybe the most impressive thing last year was the fact that the Jazz shamelessly tanked, and yet that locker room always seem to be good, and they always played hard for the most part.
 
infection said:
Unsure how good of a coach he is. I think those really supporting him may interpret that as being a hater or not acknowledging reality. I genuinely don't know. Quin is a good example that he was seen as an absolute savant until we got exposed to his patterns in deeper into the competition. It's hard to prognosticate success at the highest levels with what we see in regular competition. I'm hoping he is the real thing because us winning a title would in no small part be tied to that.
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I think its fair to be unsure on Will a little. I personally think he's good/great for this group where they are. Seems to be a little inconsistent with when he holds players accountable but we don't know everything and sometimes its just hard. Overall the guys are engaged and trying hard and many are improving. When we weren't openly trying to lose we were 29-26 with a roster that really shouldn't have been that good. I think he speaks intelligently and we haven't seen vets ask out. We've seen the opposite in that they want to stay and see it through.

He seems really well respected. I think I put it all together and can say I feel comfortable he's like a top 10-15 coach and pretty ideal for where we are.

Overall I think this is good that there seems to be alignment between Owner/GM/Coach and I do think its the right path they are trying to chart. Just need some damn luck now to juice things.
 
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