Will Okur improve our Rebounding?
- Thread starter Twin Towers
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I clearly see your point - Memo will mess things a bit short term. But as long as long term the Jazz will be better then that's ok.
Options here, as already pointed out, Fess' or Elson's minutes will take a hit. Probably Big Al too but I think not much on MSap.
Then there's the 4Q lineup that will close the game .. who will be in? Of course, it all depends on who's the opponent but think of a lineup of Big Al, MSap, Memo, AK and DWill.
NAOS
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Here is how I see Memo's minutes adding up:
Right now AK is averaging 33.8 mpg, Millsap is at 35.7 mpg, and AJ is at 35.8 mpg. I'd like to see each of these figures tick down to closer to 30... let's say there are 6.5 minutes that Memo can drain from these guys.
Right now Fes is getting 8.8 mpg, some of which I honestly feel like he is not earning. He's been pretty ineffective since the 2nd or 3rd week of the season. I think all of his minutes are in jeopardy.
Right now Elson is averaging 11.1 mpg, and I think he's quickly establishing himself in this kind of role. I see these minutes as firm or rising.
There is also the scenario where the Jazz play big, moving Millsap over to the 3, AJ to the 4, and Memo at the 5. This scenario would probably dip into Raja's minutes (28.6 mpg) and the scraps that Hayward is getting.
Summing this up, I see Memo with a maximum of 20.3mpg and a minimum of 12mpg. This is all just approximation, obviously, but I see him getting the minimum of this scale for a little while.
Right now AK is averaging 33.8 mpg, Millsap is at 35.7 mpg, and AJ is at 35.8 mpg. I'd like to see each of these figures tick down to closer to 30... let's say there are 6.5 minutes that Memo can drain from these guys.
Right now Fes is getting 8.8 mpg, some of which I honestly feel like he is not earning. He's been pretty ineffective since the 2nd or 3rd week of the season. I think all of his minutes are in jeopardy.
Right now Elson is averaging 11.1 mpg, and I think he's quickly establishing himself in this kind of role. I see these minutes as firm or rising.
There is also the scenario where the Jazz play big, moving Millsap over to the 3, AJ to the 4, and Memo at the 5. This scenario would probably dip into Raja's minutes (28.6 mpg) and the scraps that Hayward is getting.
Summing this up, I see Memo with a maximum of 20.3mpg and a minimum of 12mpg. This is all just approximation, obviously, but I see him getting the minimum of this scale for a little while.
carolinajazz
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....yeah, I'm with you on this one. The duck just doesn't know his basketball!
carolinajazz
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....I don't think Sloan will let Memo mess things up...short or long term! We insert Memo as we see fit....if he starts to mess up....we pull him just like we would pull any other player that's hurting us on the court! We've got a good thing going right now....Sloan and Johnson know this...and will take every necessary step and precaution to make sure it stays that way!
LifeOnaPlate
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I must have missed this. Source?
He is a better rebounder than Elson or Fess, and he will be primarily taking their minutes away, so yes, it will improve our rebounding.
At first I see Memo just taking all of Fess's minutes with the second unit. A 2nd unit of Watson, Price, CJ, Elson and Memo I can see the second unit being playing more of the 2nd and 4th quarters. So maybe 10-15 minutes a game for Memo.
After Memo has been playing for a month or two I expect we will see him coming in with CJ at 3 minute mark of 1st quarter. He will replace Millsap or Jefferson depending matchups and foul trouble. If the bench is playing well Sloan will leave them in until the 6 minute mark of the 2nd. I see the same pattern happening in the 4th quarter.
So that is about 18 minutes a game unless there is foul trouble.
The concern I have about this is Elson has been coming in adding a lot of defensive energy. I don't want to take away his minutes or role. Also AK is a great matchup for when other teams go small. All in all it is a good problem to have. Also Memo should be able kill over teams backup units.
The same way people talk about wings and guards helping the team with rebounding, especially offensive boards. If he crashes on a shot he will have a better chance of grabbing a board than someone 6-5 would. How many tip-ins, and offensive boards has he had in the past? I seem to remember enough to help. You don't have to be directly under the basket to grab an offensive board.
Players who are good at offensive rebounding tend to be players who are quick or can jump high, they use their ability to beat lazy defensive rebounders to the ball. Memo does not do those things, he boxes out and has solid fundamentals.
Yeah, but most rebounds still fall around the basket. I don't recall Memo being a particularly good offensive rebounder in the first place (maybe he has been when considering his positioning?). Furthermore, him being further away from the basket on offense means there's one less big to grab MOST offensive rebounds. The only thing that could happen to the offensive rebounds with Memo coming back is that they go down. I'm hopeful and 60% confident the defensive rebounds will go up, and right now, that's the biggest thing the Jazz need to be concerned with.
It's not going to help that there's absolutely no way Memo's any more athletic than he was before the injury. I hope and think you're right about the defensive rebounds part.
Gyp Rosetti
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It's a no-brainer. It will help a solid amount...about 1.0 extra rebounds per game on average I would guess.