Will Trey Ever Shoot Over 40%

VINYLONE · Nov 19, 2014

I don't know but I hope he does.

fishonjazz · Nov 19, 2014

Fabtrey said:
last night he went 7/17 i think. that's like 41%.

And that was one of his better games

nightmare3983 · Nov 19, 2014

sojodave said:
Trey is improving as a passer, but he takes a lot of shots and if he doesn't ever shoot over 40%, the Jazz have big problems at pg. This year he is shooting 33% from the field and 27% from three and he's been averaging 5 three point attempts a game.

Do you think Trey will ever shoot over 40% from the field?

In a season or a game?

nightmare3983 · Nov 19, 2014

Well he's accomplished the feat of shooting 40% in 25% (3/12) of his games this season. Maybe the next step is merely to shoot 40% or better in at least 40% of his games this season.

Stifle Tower · Nov 19, 2014

Siro said:
He would need to do 2% better than his rookie season. I don't see how he'll accomplish such a Herculean feat.

Well, CJ had four straight years of declining shooting percentages. Maybe Trey's ceiling WAS 38%/33%.

JK. As others have said, better shot selection, which includes taking it to the hoop more, would certainly help. Last night Trey made a lot of good things happen when he drove to the basket.

Fabtrey · Nov 19, 2014

nightmare3983 said:
Well he's accomplished the feat of shooting 40% in 25% (3/12) of his games this season. Maybe the next step is merely to shoot 40% or better in at least 40% of his games this season.

bad logic. these streaky shooters don't consistently shoot well. burke will have plenty of games shooting 30-35% per game. but he will have games where he shoots 50%. it will average out and he will be low 40% range next year. i think he will be similar to last year's % this year. he dug himself a big hole already. i expect him to be 38% range again

Fabtrey · Nov 19, 2014

Stifle Tower said:
Well, CJ had four straight years of declining shooting percentages. Maybe Trey's ceiling WAS 38%/33%.

JK. As others have said, better shot selection, which includes taking it to the hoop more, would certainly help. Last night Trey made a lot of good things happen when he drove to the basket.

trey's gotten better at everything this year except his shooting. he just looks off. it's fixable. attack more and just be a PG.

Siro · Nov 19, 2014

Stifle Tower said:
Well, CJ had four straight years of declining shooting percentages. Maybe Trey's ceiling WAS 38%/33%.

JK. As others have said, better shot selection, which includes taking it to the hoop more, would certainly help. Last night Trey made a lot of good things happen when he drove to the basket.

Most players improve their shooting throughout their careers. The opposite is also true on rare occasions, but I think the question is ridiculous since Burke shot nearly 40% his rookie season. Trey actually has a very nice shot. It needs a tiny bit more arc and spin. He should also release the ball a bit earlier as he tends to wait until he's on his way down. Other than those fixable issues, he has a beautiful stroke, and his shot is very accurate. Most of his misses clank in and out as the ball doesn't have enough arc or spin.

I'd be willing to bet $500 that he'll break 42% before his rookie contract expires.

fishonjazz · Nov 19, 2014

Siro said:
He should also release the ball a bit earlier as he tends to wait until he's on his way down.

This

Stifle Tower · Nov 19, 2014

Remember that PG we had who shot nearly 52%/38%?

IMO, if Trey isn't shooting around 45% overall in the next couple of years he has to be replaced. Throw out Brooks and Jack (non-starters) and 45% would be 15th best for PG's thus far this season. Trey's still young, but his shooting HAS to improve. This table is from CBSsports. Obviously a few anomalies like listing Burks as a PG. And two starting PG's for Phoenix and Boston. Accurate enough, though, to see what the Jazz need from a PG.


Player	Pos	Team	GP	GS	MPG	PTS	FG%	3P%
Jarrett Jack	PG	BKN
Tony Parker	PG	SA
Stephen Curry	PG	GS
Kyle Lowry	PG	TOR
Aaron Brooks	PG	CHI
Monta Ellis	PG	DAL
Chris Paul	PG	LAC
Goran Dragic	PG	PHO
Avery Bradley	PG	BOS
Jeremy Lin	PG	LAL
Deron Williams	PG	BKN
Damian Lillard	PG	POR
Kyrie Irving	PG	CLE
Jeff Teague	PG	ATL
Brandon Jennings	PG	DET
Rajon Rondo	PG	BOS
Mario Chalmers	PG	MIA
Brandon Knight	PG	MIL
Eric Bledsoe	PG	PHO
Jrue Holiday	PG	NO
Ty Lawson	PG	DEN
John Wall	PG	WAS
Alec Burks	PG	UTA
Isaiah Thomas	PG	PHO
Mike Conley	PG	MEM
Darren Collison	PG	SAC
Reggie Jackson	PG	OKC
Donald Sloan	PG	IND
Kemba Walker	PG	CHA
Tyreke Evans	PG	NO

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[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]30.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]12[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64, align: right"]46.6[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64, align: right"]39.3[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]18.2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64, align: right"]46.4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64, align: right"]33.3[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]20.9[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64, align: right"]45.9[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64, align: right"]44.9[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]38.4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]22.1[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl64, align: right"]44.0[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]32.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]15.8[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64, align: right"]45.4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64, align: right"]30.0[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]29[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]16.4[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64, align: right"]45.2[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64, align: right"]47.1[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]33.2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]10.6[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64, align: right"]45.1[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64, align: right"]38.5[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]29.5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]13.5[/TD]
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[TD="class: xl64, align: right"]34.3[/TD]

[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]17.9[/TD]
[TD="class: xl64, align: right"]44.4[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]11[/TD]
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[TD="align: right"]14[/TD]
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Fabtrey · Nov 20, 2014

so by your logic, john wall should be benched. cool

fishonjazz · Nov 20, 2014

Fabtrey said:
so by your logic, john wall should be benched. cool

I dint think he said that.
I think he said that he thinks TREY needs to shoot 45% or be on the trade block.

Trey burke and john wall are two different players in different situations.

One of them has great size and speed and gets to the line alot (and probably averages more assists)

The other one is short, not real fast, shoots too much, and most importantly, has a #4 pick pg guard backing him that hopes to be the future star pg of the team

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