Will You Accept the Findings of the Muller Probe?

[framer]

I’m in. Anything legal to break the R and D hold on this country.

Proportional works for me. The two that spring to mind are kind of hinted at in that video. Libertarian and Greens.

Libertarian and Green are great as concepts. But have you actually tried to work with the actual Libertarian and Green Political Parties? Each, respectively, is a mess. If we ever get a viable third party, it will be neither of these organizations but a third, entirely different one.

 

[framer]

gerrymandering could be solved with a constitutional amendment that requires that the map with the fewest miles of "border" must be used. Anyone can propose a map. Quant dudes can writer their sophisticated algorithms, others can use an etch-a-sketch. Easy to find an objective winner. Totally apolitical. Who disagrees?

I do. You definitely have to take population and "communities of interest" into account. This could probably be ameliorated by using county lines and geographical barriers where applicable. Those aren't always straight lines.

 

[idestroyedthetoilet]

Which one of us is hyper partisan again?

The people ******** their pants over Trump on Stephapropumolus is as good an example of deluded partisan logic as any.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Because Salt Lake City and Fillmore have the same needs, interests, and geographical location...

This map was redrawn in 2010 to crack the SL valley into different districts to create essentially an all republican safe majority for congress. I guess McAdams sorta threw a monkey wrench into things. Just goes to show how worthless Mia Love and 2018 were for republicans.

 

[Zombie]

Oh FFS. Trump campaign says it will consider foreign intel offers of dirt on political opponents on "a case by case basis"

https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...l-handle-foreign-intel-offers-on-case-by-case

 

[Joe Bagadonuts]

If Trump told you he was running a child sex slave ring and torturing puppies you'd say the same thing.

Come on Joe, we know you have a brain. Please reactivate it after you get past this Trump infatuation.

Hillary was taking bribes... I mean donations... from every foreign entity who knew how to sign a check (please make your contribution payable to The Clinton Foundation), but she is now among the chorus who are having a meltdown that Trump told the truth about how these sorts of things actually work. Oh whoops, I forgot that leftists now believe that pointing to the actions or behavior of any Democrat previous to the Trump presidency, is strictly verboten. What a convenient strategy.

 

[Deleted member 365]

Oh FFS. Trump campaign says it will consider foreign intel offers of dirt on political opponents on "a case by case basis"

https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...l-handle-foreign-intel-offers-on-case-by-case

So even with their do over the trump admin is insisting on breaking the law? That’s interesting. FEC Chair:

 

[One Brow]

Hillary was taking bribes... I mean donations... from every foreign entity who knew how to sign a check (please make your contribution payable to The Clinton Foundation), but she is now among the chorus who are having a meltdown that Trump told the truth about how these sorts of things actually work. Oh whoops, I forgot that leftists now believe that pointing to the actions or behavior of any Democrat previous to the Trump presidency, is strictly verboten. What a convenient strategy.

So, you have evidence of Clinton taking campaign intelligence from global rivals/enemies? No? Just spouting off a false equivalence?

 

[Stoked]

Hillary was taking bribes... I mean donations... from every foreign entity who knew how to sign a check (please make your contribution payable to The Clinton Foundation), but she is now among the chorus who are having a meltdown that Trump told the truth about how these sorts of things actually work. Oh whoops, I forgot that leftists now believe that pointing to the actions or behavior of any Democrat previous to the Trump presidency, is strictly verboten. What a convenient strategy.

If you have to defend an action by pointing to the bad, or illegal, action of others you’ve lost the debate. Regardless of how real the action your mentioning is.

What Clinton may, or may not, have done is completely irrelevant. Trump should never accept foreign election dirt. If it’s received unsolicited you report it to the FBI. Period, end of story.

How many bribes Clinton took does absolutely nothing to change that fact.

 

[Gameface]

And if Clinton is guilty then produce the evidence and charge her.

If your story is that the only reason she hasn't been charged is deep-state BS then just shut the **** up. She isn't that powerful. She never has been.

 

[Deleted member 365]

And if Clinton is guilty then produce the evidence and charge her.

If your story is that the only reason she hasn't been charged is deep-state BS then just shut the **** up. She isn't that powerful. She never has been.

Oh bullet, you’re so brainwashed by the lamestream media.

Hitlery would’ve been charged and there would’ve been plenty of evidence to indict if it weren’t for Hitlery loving James Comey! Comey loves Hitlery and Seth Rich was going to tell the world but he got killed by Hitlery! Just like Vince Foster! George Soros paid someone in the deep state to kill Seth Rich and Hitlery organized it all just like Benghazi and uranium 1 where she collided with Russia to give all our uranium to Russia.

You need to be red pilled, then you’ll see everything clearly.

 

[Red]

I want to point out one casualty of Trump's asinine interview statements. Namely, our own efforts to combat election interference. And I'm really disgusted at how Trump supporters just ignore all this. The only thing that matters is defending their leader. The US? Our elections? Our democracy? Screw that, only protecting and defending the jerk in the Oval Office matters. America First? BS!! It's Trump First apparently. I would like to think well of the people on the other side of our great divide. I really would. But Trump supporters make that increasingly impossible.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/13/fbi-election-interference-fight-donald-trump-1364597

Nearly two years ago, FBI Director Chris Wray set up an office tasked solely with stopping the type of Russian interference efforts that infected the 2016 campaign.

On Wednesday night, President Donald Trump undercut the whole operation in a matter of seconds.

In an ABC News interview, the president first proclaimed he would have no problem accepting dirt on his opponents from a foreign power, then said Wray was “wrong” to suggest the FBI needs to know about such offers.

The comments, according to interviews with nearly a dozen law enforcement veterans, have undone months of work, essentially inviting foreign spies to meddle with 2020 presidential campaigns and demoralizing the agents trying to stop them. And it has backed Wray into a corner, they added, putting him in a position where he might have to either publicly chastise the president and risk getting fired, or resign in protest.

America’s enemies will see Trump’s comments and likely “come out of the woodwork like never before to try to influence the president,” said longtime FBI veteran Frank Figliuzzi, who served as the bureau’s assistant director for counterintelligence until 2012. “And it’s going to be more difficult to defend against because they’ll try harder than ever to mask their attempts.”