Win or Lose (are the Jazz even fun to watch)

[JAZZGASM]

Half the teams in the NBA have worse PG play than the Jazz? Come on.

Of the roughly 70-75 PGs in the NBA, I would take Neto over half. I think he would be even better in a flowing offense that made use of his passing ability. The other two would be somewhere in the bottom half. There are a lot of poor PGs in the league.

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

Of the roughly 70-75 PGs in the NBA, I would take Neto over half. I think he would be even better in a flowing offense that made use of his passing ability. The other two would be somewhere in the bottom half. There are a lot of poor PGs in the league.

Did you know there are only 30 teams in the NBA? If the better half of the 70ish point guards are all starters... well, that means our PG play is the worst in the league. Math FTW.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

I find myself turning the game off for entire quarters. I can just tell when they are going into self-destruction mode.

You can literally set your watch to it... I think they call it the second quarter.

 

[JAZZGASM]

Did you know there are only 30 teams in the NBA? If the better half of the 70ish point guards are all starters... well, that means our PG play is the worst in the league. Math FTW.

I didn't say of the 30 teams in the league, ours was 15th. Out of all of the PGs in the league, I stand by my statement that ours are about average. Especially because the starters you reference don't play 48 minutes a game. Your math is flawed.

 

[r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t]

I didn't say of the 30 teams in the league, ours was 15th. Out of all of the PGs in the league, I stand by my statement that ours are about average. Especially because the starters you reference don't play 48 minutes a game. Your math is flawed.

So, our PGs fall between 35 and 70 league-wide, and yet "Our PG play is average", meaning half the teams in the NBA have worse PG play? Whatever.

 

[carolinajazz]

Saw the game last night, and the current Jazz, like about 28 other teams in this league are UNWATCHABLE! They have no "system" anymore and you have to go back to the Sloan coached Deron and Boozer teams to even get a glimpse of anything even resembling an offensive system you could watch for more than 10 minutes! And when you couple a hip hop offense with bad shooting you get pathetic basketball that deserves to be buried on local t.v. or better yet, in your backyard!

The Hawks were almost as bad last night, but at least they do less dribbling and more passing than most teams. I was somewhat surprised to see an ex-Spurs coach unable to get through to his players that you don't get "a dollar a dribble" nor get decent shots when your dribbling 20 seconds off the 24 second clock! Hard to believe the Hawks won by so much when they played almost as bad as the Jazz did!

I think this assessment just about sums up 28 of the 32 teams in the league today!

“To me great teams always have a style of play,” said Smith, a Queens native and two-time NBA champion with the Rockets. “When I think of the Knicks, do they play up-tempo? Some nights. Do they slow it down and run the triangle? Some nights. Are they defenders? Sometimes. To me, that dictates if your glass is half empty or half full. Right now, it’s empty because they don’t have a style of play.

“What a style of play does is it allows you to draft, trade and get free agents to come. For Golden State, this is the player I need: a guy who can spread the floor and shoot 3s but can also defend bigger than his position. Now I know what I’m looking for. But if I said that to New York, I don’t know if that guy fits in New York because there’s no style that’s been created.

“In San Antonio, I know I need a guy who has a high basketball IQ that understands he doesn’t need the basketball to be effective. Now I can pick a guy like that. In New York, I don’t know what I’m picking.”

https://nypost.com/2016/03/09/reggi...kson-how-long-will-knicks-play-triangle-crap/

 

[JGolds]

Back to their potential. thats the worse part. its one thing to be a bad team playing bad with no talent. thats what i liked about early 2000 jazz. every win was awesome and unexpected!. now, now that we have a plethora of talent and cant win the close ones and even when we do win its ugly as $^@&.... Half the time we look like a rec team playing against a pro team...
I have a dream that someday Quinn will run an offense! i have a dream that one day hayward wont be the number one option on our team! i have a dream that one day we will have a PG that can facilitate on offense! (rest in peace Stockton and d-will) I have a dream that hood wont become another CJ miles.... I have a dream the Alec Burks will come back! (even if he dose not win games for us, he makes them 5x more entertaining)

 

[Stifle Tower]

I voted no because, well, they're really not. Nothing about them.

Agree. The worst part is not the losing. It's the lack of progress. And the fact they are just plain boring. If I want to see brick after brick, I can sit in front of a construction site for free. The SA game was the last straw for me. Jazz controlled the game early, had many chances to stretch the lead to double digits. But it was the worst display of shooting I've ever seen. Worse than my old HS (and they went winless one year). I left after the 3rd quarter.

DL has assembled this mess. He needs to be on the hot seat because of it.

Back to their potential. thats the worse part. its one thing to be a bad team playing bad with no talent. thats what i liked about early 2000 jazz. every win was awesome and unexpected!. now, now that we have a plethora of talent and cant win the close ones and even when we do win its ugly as $^@&.... Half the time we look like a rec team playing against a pro team...

Where's this plethora of talent? Hayward, Hood, Favors. That's it. Guess you can put an injured Burks in there. But not Exum - not yet anyway. He's coming off a horrible rookie season and a major injury. Oh yeah, and a starting center who can't even catch the damn ball. Six points and SIX turnovers his last game. That's pitiful. And the WORST PG trio in the league. DL has f'ed up the rebuild, He needs to be fired.

 

[Siro]

I didn't say of the 30 teams in the league, ours was 15th. Out of all of the PGs in the league, I stand by my statement that ours are about average. Especially because the starters you reference don't play 48 minutes a game. Your math is flawed.

No need to stand by a statement that is obviously wrong. You said our "PG play is average". Which does not correspond to "better than half of total PGs in the league". Neto is our starting PG. For our PG play to be average, he needs to be better than around half of starting PGs. Our backup PG should be better than half of backup PGs. The minute part that you bring up is what kills your argument. Starting PGs get the majority of minutes at that spot. So if we're measuring our "PG play" relative to other teams, then our per minute production at the spot must be average. But that isn't the case since Neto would be worse than almost any starting PG getting the majority of minutes at the spot.

I actually think you know that your argument makes no sense. So I feel silly even making such an obvious point.

 

[♪alt13]

Neto should be getting the majority of the PG mins. When Burks comes back neither Mack or Burke should leave the bench. Lyles should get some time at the 3 because god damn I have seen enough of Ingles and Johnson and if Burks gets those minutes I have to watch watch 3rd string PGs.

Does any of this help us win? At this point I really don't ****in care. NO more Mack, Burke, Ingles, or Johnson in the rotation. They are garbage time players.

 

[VINYLONE]

I think they can be. I think when they are healthy, the Jazz are incredibly fun to watch.

 

[Captain Keefe]

I have lost all hope. I am totally not interested. I believe the team has definitely under performed. I thought a star would eventually rise to the top, but we do not have one. We have a handful of solid role players, but that is it. Gobert has been the biggest disappointment for me. What ever happened to the salute?