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I could live with Hayward. IF HE COULD ****ING SHOOT. Seriously he shot below 30% on the college three last year. To compare, ****ing Ronnie Brewer shot around 40% from the college three his last year in the NCAA's. **** my life.
 
He also shot over 40% his freshman year. *shrug*

It's a concern, but if you think Brewer's shot is more encouraging coming out of college than Hayward's, then I don't know what to tell you.
 
He also shot over 40% his freshman year. *shrug*

It's a concern, but if you think Brewer's shot is more encouraging coming out of college than Hayward's, then I don't know what to tell you.

Hayward's shot reminds me of a qb like Byron Leftwich whose delivery is too long and deliberate. It's going to allow defenders to recover, get a hand in his face every time or worse, get the ball swatted. His form is also awkward and he seems to get mediocre lift on his shots and have a trajectory with a low release point. ****.
 
Hayward's shot reminds me of a qb like Byron Leftwich whose delivery is too long and deliberate. It's going to allow defenders to recover, get a hand in his face every time or worse, get the ball swatted. His form is also awkward and he seems to get mediocre lift on his shots and have a trajectory with a low release point. ****.

Can't say anything one way or another since I haven't watched his shot yet.

And for just comparison's sake, I'll look for how Korver's shot was in college and see how that changed. Ray Allen's would be one to look at as well.
 
Can't say anything one way or another since I haven't watched his shot yet.

And for just comparison's sake, I'll look for how Korver's shot was in college and see how that changed. Ray Allen's would be one to look at as well.

Sounds good. I'm sure Deron doesn't mind waiting in his shot to change/improve for a few years.
 
Winners: 45 year old overweight Mormon housewives. Now they'll have another adorable white boy to cheer.
 
Shh, we are not allowed to use reality here.

So your personal opinion constitutes "reality"? Apparently, the majority here do not feel he was the best player remaining on the board. Neither did ESPN, nor did most mock drafts.

But whatever makes you happy, I suppose.
 
With one obvious exception, in the past decade or so, the reality is the Jazz FO are such losers with 1st round picks.

Really, the Jazz absolutely need to get a high lottery pick to get somebody like Deron. But give them mid-1st rounders and they grab Humphries and Snyder. Give them a late 1st and they get Koufos and Almond. And now give them a late lottery pick and they get Hayward.
 
Winners? KK2 and Fes who have to be feeling a little more secure in their employment next year.
Loser? Paul Milsap, who will probably be our only legit PF and who will continue to get clobbered in the paint as un undersized dude without any legitimate help.
 
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