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Woj: Don to the Cavs for Markkanen, Agbaji, Sexton, three unprotected 1sts, two swaps, and a partridge in a pear tree.

SoberasHotRod said:
Thanks, I thought there were more details somewhere. I also thought they were offering two additional protected picks.

I tend to think this Knicks deal might be better than what we got from Cleveland. It's close though, close enough that the details would make a difference.
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I will say if it was a coin flip you go with the guys you’ve done multiple deals with before over the clowns who have their executives show up to a playoff game, give you a ******** ultimatum and not negotiate in good faith. Every time.
 
Elizah Huge said:
We don’t know exactly but it sounds like it was this or close to this:

RJ Barrett
Immanuel Quickley
2 unprotected Knicks 1sts
1 top-5 protected Knicks 1st
2 other players (expiring contracts)

Fournier was getting routed to a third team with a protected 1st from the Knicks and two players with expiring contracts were coming to us.

We don’t know the years on the picks they were offering. If you were to believe Ric Bucher he said the two unprotected 1sts were 24/26.
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It wasn't the Knicks protected pick. They offered the MKE pick from what I gather.... which is top 5 protected.
 
stitches said:
It wasn't the Knicks protected pick. They offered the MKE pick from what I gather.... which is top 5 protected.
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I think that makes more sense. I kinda believe that more than it was a Knicks pick.
 
Handlogten's Heros said:

View: https://twitter.com/GwashburnGlobe/status/1566553419778707457


Leon Rose is just so hilarious. Won't face the media. Says trade was unfair. Leaks offers he said he made that he didn't... and is also like "well this consultant is really in charge".
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Well looks like Leon Rose found his fall guy. Good for him, I guess? It must be fun being the GM of a team and being too chicken to stand behind your work on a deal you've been preparing to make for 3 years. They hired Walt Perrin who was our main scout and who organized the workout when the Jazz fell in love with Mitchell. They hired his personal trainer/coach Johnnie Bryant... they were on first row seats in playoff games of Mitchell(and Brunson)... but sure... Let the creepster from Minny take the lead in negotiations. :D
 
stitches said:
It wasn't the Knicks protected pick. They offered the MKE pick from what I gather.... which is top 5 protected.
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The Milwaukee pick is actually top-4 protected.

This is what Woj wrote:

Utah wanted three unprotected first-round draft picks as part of the package -- but New York would only do a third first-round pick that included top-five protections, sources said. Those packages would've included Milwaukee's 2025 first-round pick, two second-round picks, two pick swaps and two expiring contracts from a third team, sources said.
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Elizah Huge said:
The Milwaukee pick is actually top-4 protected.

This is what Woj wrote:
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This is in addition to swapping Grimes for Quickley and it was reported the Knicks took out the swaps and seconds from the offer as well when they countered.
 
Elizah Huge said:
This is in addition to swapping Grimes for Quickley and it was reported the Knicks took out the swaps and seconds from the offer as well when they countered.
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I don't believe anything coming from Woj after this trade when it comes to reports on what was offered and what was rejected. Woj is so obviously doing damage control for his CAA buddies in NY.
 
stitches said:
Well looks like Leon Rose found his fall guy. Good for him, I guess? It must be fun being the GM of a team and being too chicken to stand behind your work on a deal you've been preparing to make for 3 years. They hired Walt Perrin who was our main scout and who organized the workout when the Jazz fell in love with Mitchell. They hired his personal trainer/coach Johnnie Bryant... they were on first row seats in playoff games of Mitchell(and Brunson)... but sure... Let the creepster from Minny take the lead in negotiations. :D
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Rose also doesn't speak to the media. Its hilarious how some NYers paint him as the NY tough guy... Leon the DON!!! and he is really playing a scared game.
 
I think the Knicks are also realizing how effed they are. They can sell this "build on the kids" narrative but the fact is the kids won't play half as much as Randle and Fournier... and those guys aren't getting moved without assets. Knicks young guys lose value (they kill 3 years of the rookie deal) or the bench their vets making them even less tradeable. They had so little leverage here and played it like they had ALL THE LEVERAGE!!!

Just wild how much they effed it up. It may end up working out for them but this wasn't the plan.
 
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