Would you be happy with this for the 5th pick?

[LogGrad98]

How about Hayward? Or Kanter? Would you be happy with Trey Burke part 2 with this pick?

As we get closer and I read more about who might be there at 5, I just see Kanter/Hayward/Burke all over again. We are going to add another question mark to a question mark of a team. What can we possibly expect to come out of that?

I am certainly hoping whoever we pick is the steal of the draft at that spot and overwhelms us all with their command of the game. But I am afraid we will just get someone we will be debating trading 2 years from now to move up from the 7th spot in that draft.

 

[fgcamel]

we just need someone who isn't going to take years to develop like those three, which is why i am not sure about selecting gordon.

 

[fishonjazz]

As we get closer and I read more about who might be there at 5, I just see Kanter/Hayward/Burke all over again.

I agree.

I think aaron gordon is the most different/unique and least redundant to our team of they guys that will be available at 5...... and he can play small forward (our thinnest position)

I like gordon at 5 for this particular jazz team

 

[Beantown]

We need a star, not another role player. The only "star" potential at #5 is Gordon and Smart.

 

[Sexual Favors]

A. Gordon has highest upside of all 5th pick contenders, and is only one who could fill need at SF

 

[b_line]

I like Vonleh. I know he has the same body as Favors, but I think he has two way potential. I think if we don't move up, I want no part of Randle or Smart, and I question Gordon a little bit. Vonleh for me.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I like Vonleh. I know he has the same body as Favors, but I think he has two way potential. I think if we don't move up, I want no part of Randle or Smart, and I question Gordon a little bit. Vonleh for me.

Agree. Might he make Kanter expendable? Certainly. But I say bring in the competition and see who wins. If Kanter can't improve his defense, then Enes is no better than a role player. And we'd be wise to find that out before extending him for $10M+/per.

 

[Sexual Favors]

Drafting Vonleh?

How do you find time for:

Favors,
Kanter,
Gobert,
J. Evans,
Marvin (Jazz acted like they really wanted him. Reports, albeit vague, say they turned down a late first rounder this year for him)
E. Murphy

To know what each of these are worth.

Why create another log jam? I will be pissed if we let Paul and Al walk if the organization doesn't give the favors, Kanter, and Gobert trio the time and circumstance needed to develop and prove themselves. Only acceptable interruption to me is Embiid.

Also, at Vonleh's stage, Kanter was already tearing it up offensively. He shattered the nike hoops summit pts per game record previously held by dirk, and that was as a backup. Noah Vonleh's passive nature would cement this team in eternal pussydom.

 

[fishonjazz]

eternal pussydom.

Heaven?

 

[Sexual Favors]

Heaven?

Haha. Touché.

How about eternal sissydom.

 

[Stifle Tower]

Drafting Vonleh?

How do you find time for:

Favors,
Kanter,
Gobert,
J. Evans,
Marvin (Jazz acted like they really wanted him. Reports, albeit vague, say they turned down a late first rounder this year for him)
E. Murphy

To know what each of these are worth.

Why create another log jam? I will be pissed if we let Paul and Al walk if the organization doesn't give the favors, Kanter, and Gobert trio the time and circumstance needed to develop and prove themselves. Only acceptable interruption to me is Embiid.

Also, at Vonleh's stage, Kanter was already tearing it up offensively. He shattered the nike hoops summit pts per game record previously held by dirk, and that was as a backup. Noah Vonleh's passive nature would cement this team in eternal pussydom.

My goodness, are you really worried about Jeremy Evans and Erick Murphy? Those guys are scrubs. I love Jeremy as a person. I like his jams. But he's an 11th-man on a roster. As for Murphy, he was RELEASED by another team. Do you think he is a rotation quality player? Let him develop in the D-League.

Marvin isn't a starting PF. IF he re-signs, it will be to back up the SF position.

WE draft a PF and Kanter and Favors can still get 30 mins. each. Gobert and Vonleh/Randle get 18/per as the backups. They're both raw and aren't ready to play substantially more. Of course, there are always injuries. So per game averages will go up a bit from the above. Embiid creates a similar scenario in Year 1. You ease him in slowly and have Favors play more mins. at PF.

Yes, Kanter was tearing it up offensively, but what can he do defensively? Nothing as far as I can see. Vonleh can be a 2-way player. Enes just might be the "Kant"-er man (as in Can't play defense). He just doesn't move well.

 

[Stifle Tower]

To add to that, the only concern I have with Vonleh is his motor. Does he become another Marvin Williams...immensely talented, but without the drive to be great?