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Would you go for a total rebuild?

I like Gasol. But you obviously can't plan to get him as an RFA, and getting RFA's always means paying too much, especially for big centers.
 
I like Gasol. But you obviously can't plan to get him as an RFA, and getting RFA's always means paying too much, especially for big centers.

When you're starting over and you have the room, why not? Young, versatile, durable, tough, and smart Cs with no significant drawbacks don't just come along. Hypothetically of course. The Gasol ship has sailed unless it involves a sign-and-trade with a top-3 pick.

The Pau trade might be the smartest thing that franchise ever did. I can guarantee you the Grizzlies would continue to languish as bad or worse and Pau would be walking. Anyway...
 
When you're starting over and you have the room, why not? Hypothetically of course. The Gasol ship has sailed unless it involves a sign-and-trade with a top-3 pick.

Because of the price. Prying away an RFA that another team very much wants to keep means paying an exorbitant price. Gasol is good. But he's not a star. Offering him anything close to market rate and Memphis quickly matches. They allegedly promised Zach they were going to resign Gasol when he signed his extension.
 
Because of the price. Prying away an RFA that another team very much wants to keep means paying an exorbitant price. Gasol is good. But he's not a star. Offering him anything close to market rate and Memphis quickly matches. They allegedly promised Zach they were going to resign Gasol when he signed his extension.

Talk is cheap and we've yet to see Memphis be anything but, either. I understand how the RFA thing works, and I'm saying if you don't have anymore dead-weight deals like AK and Memo have been, and you also don't have anyone else taking up significant space, sure, pay the premium. Gasol's the kind of player you can put on almost any other team in the league and they're automatically better because he's skilled and produce, but as or more importantly, he sees and plays the whole game. And Cs that are legitimate 7'+ and are built like tanks are rare enough. Coupling that with a skill-driven game basically never happens anymore. He'll make others better and better players around him allow him to be better also.

Yeah, "overpay". See how it goes. If you don't get him, then you have too much money for extensions and for overpaying for role-players on short contracts (to meet minimum spending requirements) and have put Memphis in a tough spot (especially if a hard cap is coming).
 
The guy averaged 12 and 7 in 32 minutes. And it's not like he's an All NBA Defensive player. He's a nice complimentary piece. There's only so much you pay for that.
 
The guy averaged 12 and 7 in 32 minutes. And it's not like he's an All NBA Defensive player. He's a nice complimentary piece. There's only so much you pay for that.

I'm amazed it took that long for this reply to come up.

I'd rather have a player try to take the right shot as they grow instead of chuck their way through their slumps or to get their basic stats up.

Also, comparing Jefferson's impact on team rebounding and Gasol's, it actually favors Gasol. I'll get into more of their respective impacts later, even though I know you're not comparing the two, but in my scenario it's kind of pivotal to the discussion.
 
I'm amazed it took that long for this reply to come up.

I'd rather have a player try to take the right shot as they grow instead of chuck their way through their slumps or to get their basic stats up.

Also, comparing Jefferson's impact on team rebounding and Gasol's, it actually favors Gasol. I'll get into more of their respective impacts later, even though I know you're not comparing the two, but in my scenario it's kind of pivotal to the discussion.

It's seems like your dream is to have 5 guys on the floor who only take the right shots. It doesn't work like that. You need to have guys who can create their own shots to help the guys who can't. And you don't pay star money for a guy who can't unless he's really bringing huge other variables to the table. I don't see that in Gasol.

I think you have it in your head that the only difference offensively between Al and Gasol is Al takes more shots. Like, if you told Gasol to take as many shots as he wanted he could score 20 a night. He can't. If Memphis dumped the ball into the low post with Gasol like they do with Randolph and told him to have at it, he'd be hopeless. In a thousand lifetimes, Gasol could never average the 24 and 11 Al did for those two months. That's a huge gap in skill.
 
It's seems like your dream is to have 5 guys on the floor who only take the right shots. It doesn't work like that. You need to have guys who can create their own shots to help the guys who can't. And you don't pay star money for a guy who can't unless he's really bringing huge other variables to the table. I don't see that in Gasol.

I think you have it in your head that the only difference offensively between Al and Gasol is Al takes more shots. Like, if you told Gasol to take as many shots as he wanted he could score 20 a night. He can't. If Memphis dumped the ball into the low post with Gasol like they do with Randolph and told him to have at it, he'd be hopeless. In a thousand lifetimes, Gasol could never average the 24 and 11 Al did for those two months. That's a huge gap in skill.
Holy total ****ing conjecture, Batman.
 
Do you really think 20 point scorers in the NBA are 20 point scorers just because they take a lot of shots? Or alternately, do you think there are lots of guys in the NBA who don't average 20 a game who could if they just took more shots?
 
When you're starting over and you have the room, why not? Young, versatile, durable, tough, and smart Cs with no significant drawbacks don't just come along. Hypothetically of course. The Gasol ship has sailed unless it involves a sign-and-trade with a top-3 pick.

The Pau trade might be the smartest thing that franchise ever did. I can guarantee you the Grizzlies would continue to languish as bad or worse and Pau would be walking. Anyway...

Let the Grizzlies keep their Gasol for max money. He averages 11 and 7 and had a -4 adjusted +/- rating. He might be smarter than Al, but doesn't impact the game any more.
 
Let the Grizzlies keep their Gasol for max money. He averages 11 and 7 and had a -4 adjusted +/- rating. He might be smarter than Al, but doesn't impact the game any more.

Where are you getting that Gasol has a -4? Do you mean Jefferson?
 
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