I don't think there's anyway to know one way or the other.
Would you trade Exum for Lavine?
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I don't think there's anyway to know one way or the other.
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He said selfish players have a ceiling of Nick young.
We were comparing kobe/nique/iverson/westbrook (dudes who alot of people criticize for thier selfishness) to having a ceiling of Nick young.
You think those players are equal to Nick young? To each thier own I guess
AlaskanAssassin
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Interesting article from David Thorpe on Exum. He has him rated as the #1 rookie PG in the draft class still. Thinks he'll be an all-star. Rated him over Elfrid Payton and Lavine.
https://espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/12595966/projecting-rookie-point-guards
"The good news is he appears eager to learn how to be a point guard. He is doing well as a ball-mover, and he doesn't force the issue on offense. The fact that he's rarely in a rush is a sign that he's trying to figure out this complex game. And there is value in having a point guard run the team's offense, especially when he can't score efficiently on his own."
Also says we should expect huge improvement from year 1 to year 2 from Dante.
Let's hope!!!!!
https://espn.go.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/12595966/projecting-rookie-point-guards
"The good news is he appears eager to learn how to be a point guard. He is doing well as a ball-mover, and he doesn't force the issue on offense. The fact that he's rarely in a rush is a sign that he's trying to figure out this complex game. And there is value in having a point guard run the team's offense, especially when he can't score efficiently on his own."
Also says we should expect huge improvement from year 1 to year 2 from Dante.
Let's hope!!!!!
JazzyFresh
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At this point I'd trade Exum for a bag of Funyuns, and I don't even like Funyuns.
I know we can't post full insider articles and whatnot legally, but are fine with small excerpts.
I wonder if 4-5 posters posted small (20-25%) excerpts of the article if that would get Jason into trouble?
Can we get a ruling.... Jason.... Colton.
p.s. I already know the answer, just the cheapskate in me dreaming and scheming.
He does say his best guess for Exum is all-star. The only one from this crop he calls this. He says best guess for Lavine is 6th man/scoring guard.
Exum bringing it against the Nugs so far. Not quite half time and he already has 7 assists and 1 to.
Still little offense, but it's nice to see the assists rolling in.
It's difficult to get 7 assists in a half with a "low bbiq".
Still little offense, but it's nice to see the assists rolling in.
It's difficult to get 7 assists in a half with a "low bbiq".
JazzyFresh
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Upgrading this to a 6 pack of deschutes river ale. Damn good showing facilitating the ball tonight.
karl malone
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I understand why Exum has received as much criticism as he has this year due to the fact that he is clearly the furthest behind in his development out of our key players. Hayward, Favors, & Gobert are all contributing at a high level, while Exum is still struggling to find his footing in the league & his role on the team. I think some of his apparent confidence issues/lack of aggression is more due to a misconception that he has as far as what the team is looking for from him rather than him being timid or scared. Up until now, he has always been the best/most physically gifted player on the floor & now that he no longer is, I think he has realized that, while he may still be able to be somewhat affective were he to rely solely on his athleticism & aggression as he had up to this point, he wouldn't be nearly as affective as he could be were he to learn the system & nuances of the position, in order to combine that knowledge with his physical gifts & natural aggression.
Before the season began, he was likely told to ignore results & focus on developing specific areas of his game (such as pace, game management, shooting, passing, & defense). When he was drafted, I don't think the FO was looking for a Westbrook type of PG, but rather a Rondo type (who would hopefully be able to actually hit an open shot beyond mid-range). From the little I have heard from him in interviews, confidence doesn't seem to be an issue. As far as I can tell, he has carried himself very professionally, & if I had to guess, I would imagine that his play on the court is more due to his desire to fit in, earn his keep, & not step on anyone's toes. His personality strikes me more as the silent, confident type rather than someone who feels the need to prove his worth in a season in which he clearly isn't ready to do so (& rightfully so). He knows that one season will not determine the outcome of his career. This year is about learning what it means to be a professional (& good teammate) while allowing his (still developing) body to adjust to the toll that an 82 game season takes on your body.
This isn't to say that I have zero concerns about him or that I am 100% certain that he will become a superstar, but to suggest trading one question mark with potential for another question mark with potential doesn't make sense (although I would consider trading him for Russell, who is another question mark with potential, but only because I see Russell as less of a question mark & a potentially elite scorer & don't quite see Lavine as having quite that type of offensive potential). I could understand wanting to trade Exum for an established all-star caliber player, strictly due to the fact that Hayward, Favors, & Gobert are ready to win now, while Exum clearly isn't, but that is unlikely to happen. Regardless, just because Exum appears to be lagging behind the team's overall developmental timeline, it is far too early to give up on him. His combination of physical tools, work ethic/character, basketball iq, & court vision are extremely rare in a PG, especially one at his age, & could eventually come together to create a very special player. There aren't a lot of players out there (tho there are a few) that I would trade away Exum for & Lavine is not one of them (although I do like him as a player & would love to have him in the backcourt alongside Exum).
Before the season began, he was likely told to ignore results & focus on developing specific areas of his game (such as pace, game management, shooting, passing, & defense). When he was drafted, I don't think the FO was looking for a Westbrook type of PG, but rather a Rondo type (who would hopefully be able to actually hit an open shot beyond mid-range). From the little I have heard from him in interviews, confidence doesn't seem to be an issue. As far as I can tell, he has carried himself very professionally, & if I had to guess, I would imagine that his play on the court is more due to his desire to fit in, earn his keep, & not step on anyone's toes. His personality strikes me more as the silent, confident type rather than someone who feels the need to prove his worth in a season in which he clearly isn't ready to do so (& rightfully so). He knows that one season will not determine the outcome of his career. This year is about learning what it means to be a professional (& good teammate) while allowing his (still developing) body to adjust to the toll that an 82 game season takes on your body.
This isn't to say that I have zero concerns about him or that I am 100% certain that he will become a superstar, but to suggest trading one question mark with potential for another question mark with potential doesn't make sense (although I would consider trading him for Russell, who is another question mark with potential, but only because I see Russell as less of a question mark & a potentially elite scorer & don't quite see Lavine as having quite that type of offensive potential). I could understand wanting to trade Exum for an established all-star caliber player, strictly due to the fact that Hayward, Favors, & Gobert are ready to win now, while Exum clearly isn't, but that is unlikely to happen. Regardless, just because Exum appears to be lagging behind the team's overall developmental timeline, it is far too early to give up on him. His combination of physical tools, work ethic/character, basketball iq, & court vision are extremely rare in a PG, especially one at his age, & could eventually come together to create a very special player. There aren't a lot of players out there (tho there are a few) that I would trade away Exum for & Lavine is not one of them (although I do like him as a player & would love to have him in the backcourt alongside Exum).
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Team had him run plays tonight a lot more than usual. Scored that initial reverse layup then the defense stepped up every time he drove opening up some nice passing lanes. He has the height and court vision to make some incredible passes. I love when he gets doubled on the pick and roll and he just jumps over the other pg and passes to his open big. Hit Favors on a few of those for wide open jumpers. That play will be unstoppable next season if Favors continues to improve jumper and Exum improves his ability to score at the rim.