Stifle, Kevin Love also wanted a trade, and Wolves did not even have his rights next year. Yet Wolves did not give him up for pennies. They got top pick in the best draft in years plus other picks to boot. Now, Kanter is no Love, but I am not suggesting we got Wiggins either. Top 10 pick for a proven talented young big is not a stretch. The point here is not to settle for garbage. Especially when you have the guys rights for over a year.
**** you Enes Kanter
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any good lip readers?
I'm pretty good. He says "Man, I can't play defense". Or something to that effect.
LifeOnaPlate
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Snyder said Novak was crucial in setting the tone for the locker room and getting the team to buy into the new system. So w/e.
Also, Kanter ain't Kevin Love, bro.
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The Fresh Prince
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Cry harder.
It's hard to get a lot in return when the idiot demands a trade and wasn't playing good enough to justify a trade demand.
We already know trading away Kanter was addition by subtraction and has been a massive boon. And if you don't already think Lindsey did the proper due-diligence on Kanter's value, you are a fool.
Kanter's value wasn't high because he mailed it in for the last two seasons then demanded a trade. I wish the Jazz got more back as well, but the organization's back was against the wall. That Kanter has looked so much better and the Jazz have dramatically improved prove everyone right simultaneously, but it doesn't change Kanter's value on the trade market in the past.
So unless your point is that the Jazz should've just let that poison continue to rot the locker room so they MIGHT have been able to round up some even lesser garbage in a Extend-and-trade or going through NEXT season with that drama, get the **** out.
Kanter's value wasn't high because he mailed it in for the last two seasons then demanded a trade. I wish the Jazz got more back as well, but the organization's back was against the wall. That Kanter has looked so much better and the Jazz have dramatically improved prove everyone right simultaneously, but it doesn't change Kanter's value on the trade market in the past.
So unless your point is that the Jazz should've just let that poison continue to rot the locker room so they MIGHT have been able to round up some even lesser garbage in a Extend-and-trade or going through NEXT season with that drama, get the **** out.
LifeOnaPlate
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Kanter the new lead singer of Me first and the gimmie gimmies.
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Until yesterday that was my point. I thought the Jazz should have kept him rather than trade him for nothing of value. I had no idea there was so much conflict and animosity with the players. It sure seems like the Jazz had reached the point where they had no choice. Finally, I can make sense of the trade. One rotten apple comes to mind.
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TheStormofWar
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Understandable. Welcome to the Dark Side, BTW.
vegas
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Exactly where I was. It's incredible that Every single person in the Jazz organization (players, coaches and even beat writers) chose not to throw Kanter under the bus after his trade comments. I thought it was telling that Locke was thoroughly at war last night. He said they have coddled and given him the benefit of the doubt for so long, but with what Kanter said, he was not holding back last night. He also said his agent was one of the worst and blames him for a lot of this behavior. That tells me it's been going on for quite some time internally before Kanter chose to make it a spectacle.
Stifle Tower
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LOVE was FAR from a problem in the locker room. Love also pretty much guaranteed he'd sign with Cleveland when his deal was up. There's also NO DOUBT he'll get a max offer. You also had LBJ signing with the Cavs pretty much based on the guarantee they'd go get Love. Kanter is not in that class. Again, please tell me what team would have given up a top-10 pick and given Kanter his max deal?
Minnesota, Lakers, Denver, Sacramento, Philadelphia, New York, Orlando, Detroit, Charlotte, Indiana, Brooklyn.
Cross Minny, Denver, Sacramento, Philly, Orlando, Charlotte and Indiana off that list immediately. They all have centers who are better than Kanter right now or who they view as their "centers of the future." You don't think Lindsey had conversations with EVERY team in the league? Of course he did. He admitted they've been shopping Kanter - long before the deadline. But Ergul (according to our own Dr. Jones/PKM) had Kanter go public with his trade demand to FORCE a trade. At that point, it was take the best offer available. Based on what Kanter has said, it would have been organizational suicide to force him to play out his contract. He would have continued to complain and not given 100% effort. And not starting Rudy would have frustrated Gobert. Now everyone is happy.