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You've seen enough - Burks to start or off the bench?

Do you want Burks to start at SG or off the bench as the 6th man/scorer?

  • Start Burks at SG

    Votes: 40 88.9%

  • Bring him off the bench as the 6th man/scorer

    Votes: 5 11.1%

  • Trade him

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    45
jjscap said:
Well, if he does not start at the SG, then who does? Both Hood and Hayward are SFs. Exum is not ready to start at all, he is not a SG in the first place, at least for now. Ian Clark?

If you ask me Burks was arguably the most improving player last season. He deserves 30+ minutes already. Off the bench or not, does not matter much. But keep in mind he is not a player beasting against scrubs. His best offensive games were against contenders. He'd be a complete player if he improved his jumpshot/FT tough.

I believe Corbin and his hideous coaching staff had done a terrible job with developing Burks. He got DNPs when perfectly healthy, wasted months. He has a lot of room for improvement. Let him play, let him improve and learn. And let him show how good he is. After all the Jazz have a decision to make soon enough.
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I noticed your signature has "in DL we trust".


I wonder how many of KOC's old players and draft picks will be left by the time DL is done with the roster. Gobert, Exum, Burke, Hood all looks to me like smart, high BBIQ basketball players and all seems like real keepers.


Kanter though is still struggling to find his feet and place in the league. Alec is still trying to prove that he can be at least a solid starter or alternatively a LEGIT 6th man off the bench. They'll cost a lot of money to keep too...


TBH, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if both of them are no longer on the Jazz roster next year.
 
jjscap said:
Well, if he does not start at the SG, then who does? Both Hood and Hayward are SFs. Exum is not ready to start at all, he is not a SG in the first place, at least for now. Ian Clark?

If you ask me Burks was arguably the most improving player last season. He deserves 30+ minutes already. Off the bench or not, does not matter much. But keep in mind he is not a player beasting against scrubs. His best offensive games were against contenders. He'd be a complete player if he improved his jumpshot/FT tough.

I believe Corbin and his hideous coaching staff had done a terrible job with developing Burks. He got DNPs when perfectly healthy, wasted months. He has a lot of room for improvement. Let him play, let him improve and learn. And let him show how good he is. After all the Jazz have a decision to make soon enough.
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Totally agree here. I worry a bit about what shape that leaves our second unit in, as Exum, save for a few flashes, looks more he's two years away from being a steady contributor than just next year. I think Murray/Jones are in for some serious playing time this year. Both are actually decent scrubs, but still scrub-level (and I'm a Wichita State homer). I like what Hood brings and think he'll help shore up the second unit. But unless Kanter gets demoted in favor of Gobert we're going to have a lack of consistent fire power there methinks...

Captain Obvious out.
 
At the moment it's pretty obvious, he should start unless someone can unseat him, he has paid his dues
 
It's a no-brainer - you've got to give the kid 65-70 consecutive starts. Does anyone think it's a homer stretch to say this kid's ceiling is all-star? You have to see how he grows in the starting unit.

If it doesn't work out it's not like you can't move him back to 6th man. Hell, Jamal Crawford started like 400 games in his career.
 
Did not vote. Seems to me we can't know the answer to that question until we know two things. Can someone else fill the the starting role adequately and do we have anyone else who can score adequately as a sixth man? Does he deserve to start? Most definitely!! Wait and see was not a poll choice.
 
Honestly the only reason this is even a discussion is Tyrone Corbin. IOW, Corbin brought Burks off the bench so we're talking about it. If the Jazz need scoring/playmaking off the bench, Hayward is the guy best suited for it and I'm not sure it's close. He provides shooting where the Jazz don't have it with Exum, he's a better guy in terms of making teammates better (again something the 2nd unit needs) and he can still put the ball in the basket in terms of being a scorer.
 
seattlejazzfan said:
Honestly the only reason this is even a discussion is Tyrone Corbin. IOW, Corbin brought Burks off the bench so we're talking about it. If the Jazz need scoring/playmaking off the bench, Hayward is the guy best suited for it and I'm not sure it's close. He provides shooting where the Jazz don't have it with Exum, he's a better guy in terms of making teammates better (again something the 2nd unit needs) and he can still put the ball in the basket in terms of being a scorer.
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Can we really bench our franchise player, and highest paid player. That might ruin him. And before I start another discussion he's been dubbed our franchise player by the entire league, and he has shown this so far in preseason. I'm sorry, but suggesting we put Hayward on the bench is beyond stupid


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Thee jazz fan said:
Can we really bench our franchise player, and highest paid player. That might ruin him. And before I start another discussion he's been dubbed our franchise player by the entire league, and he has shown this so far in preseason. I'm sorry, but suggesting we put Hayward on the bench is beyond stupid
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lol

I've heard throughout this discussion over the years with Burks, that it doesn't matter who starts, it's who finishes and how many minutes a guy gets. It might ruin him? If he doesn't have the mental capacity to come of the bench for the good of the team, he isn't a franchise player and they should trade him now. Also, if it helps the team win basketball games - and I've listed a couple reason why it might - who gives a rat's *** if the so-called franchise player comes off the bench. Isn't the point to win basketball games?

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You underestimate a basketball players ego, especially one who is being paid a max contract. Hayward is too good to risk putting on the bench. You have to consider what that would do to his future here long term and what that would mean for the locker room


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Thee jazz fan said:
You underestimate a basketball players ego, especially one who is being paid a max contract. Hayward is too good to risk putting on the bench. You have to consider what that would do to his future here long term and what that would mean for the locker room


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Once again, if it's best for the team in terms of wins and losses, he would have to deal with it - and if he's unable to do that, trade his ***. Manu Ginobili was a top 3 SG in the mid-00s (a lot better than Hayward has ever been) and would have had every right to let coming off the bench affect him, but instead he put the good of the team above himself. If Snyder feels that is best, Hayward will deal with or he will be gone.

FWIW, I don't think Hayward should come off the bench and I'm certain Snyder feels the same. But he is definitely a better fit off the bench, playing with Exum and Gobert than is Burks. His passing, ballhandling and shooting would be huge playing with those guys.

Bottom line. Burks and Hayward will start, so the discussion is moot anyway.
 
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