JimLes
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Ah yes. Real men tote guns, shoot people, and protect their property(wife included).
Zimmerman/Martin Jury
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Ah yes. Real men tote guns, shoot people, and protect their property(wife included).
JimLes
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Can you be convicted of anything if you were sleepwalking?
Once, when I was at Uni, after a party, a sorority girl sleepwalked naked into the room I was crashing in. I didn't know she was sleepwalking. Woke up when I put my hand on her butt. She was freaking pissed.
UGLI baby
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I'm sorry you feel that your wife is property and is not worth protecting.
Maybe he's married to Mahana, the one at the first of the show.?
Yeah, he's ****ed.
[video]https://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-25-2013/presumed-guiltocent
[video]https://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-june-25-2013/presumed-guiltocent
LOL, yeah, not looking so good for the Z man.
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I really want him found guilty.
The problem is while the OJ trial was divided racially this trial divides us politically.
I just wish that we could look at the facts. A young man was minding his own business when an over zealous wacho stalked him and picked a fight with him despite what the operator told him. Bad Zimmermann done what any rational person would have done then Trayvon would still be alive today.
What the right seems to be advocating for is the right to do EVERYTHING but throw the first punch. Stalk, irritate, intimidate. Once the other person has had enough you have the right to "stand your ground" and blow someone away. Amazing. What a horrible standard this is setting.
Get rid of this piece of trash. Stop playing political games.
If someone is committing a crime then call the cops. Otherwise, stop treading on my freedom.
The problem is while the OJ trial was divided racially this trial divides us politically.
I just wish that we could look at the facts. A young man was minding his own business when an over zealous wacho stalked him and picked a fight with him despite what the operator told him. Bad Zimmermann done what any rational person would have done then Trayvon would still be alive today.
What the right seems to be advocating for is the right to do EVERYTHING but throw the first punch. Stalk, irritate, intimidate. Once the other person has had enough you have the right to "stand your ground" and blow someone away. Amazing. What a horrible standard this is setting.
Get rid of this piece of trash. Stop playing political games.
If someone is committing a crime then call the cops. Otherwise, stop treading on my freedom.
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Have you been following the trial? The man is not guilty. I'm sorry but I find it pretty crazy this has been brought to trial. I was about 60%/40% in favor of Zimmerman before the trial started but as I've read testimony from the trial I'm 95% sure Zimmerman is not only technically innocent, as I believed before, but morally innocent as well. Zimmerman did the right thing from every last bit of testimony I've read (I haven't read all of it so give it your best shot Thriller, I could change my mind). My opinion has changed dramatically from before the trial started.
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He stalked the kid, pursued him despite being advised not to, and when the kid finally had enough, Zimmermann had to "defend himself" with lethal force.
When had he just left the kid alone both would be alive and free today.
I fear the standard that this trial is setting. Apparently now, I can stalk someone, intimidate them, piss them off to the point that those pursued now feel the flight of fight response, and then I can claim self defense if they choose to fight.
Lets just analyze what would have happened had Martin chose the "flight" option. Zimmermann would have had an excuse to pursue him even more. "Oh man, these a holes always run away and get away with everything!" Instead, Martin chose to fight and the rest is history.
You cannot stalk annoy and otherwise infringe upon someone's rights until they've had enough and then call yourself acting in self defense. Sorry, but that's not the America I know.
And the fact that he lied (one of many lies. Lies about Martin grabbing his gun, yelling for help, the list goes on and on and on.) about not knowing about the "stand your ground" law is interesting too. Just how many people did this piece of trash intimidate and piss off knowing that he could "stand his ground" if something got too heated? Send him to prison. Maybe not for murder but for man slaughter. He needs to pay for the crime which he committed. And people need to stop making this a racial or political issue.
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fallenchicken
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Perhaps Zimmerman's life was in danger--perhaps Martin really was going to hurt or kill him--and if that's self-defense, Zimmerman should walk. But let's not forget that Zimmerman was the one who followed Martin with a loaded gun, picked a fight with a loaded gun (Martin, presumably, did not know Zimmerman had a loaded gun), lost the fight (apparently), and then pulled the trigger. Zimmerman might be technically innocent, I don't know--but he's not morally innocent. Not by any stretch.