Zimmerman/Martin Jury

[Gameface]

Fair enough. But when people are saying things like it's "open season on black males" is it not a fair statement to make? If it is truly a problem (it is) why not address the area of greatest harm in addition to smaller areas?

I wouldn't counter meaningless nonsense with additional meaningless nonsense.

 

[Gameface]

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https://kff.org/other/state-indicator/poverty-rate-by-raceethnicity/

Where are these poor white people located? Inner cities?

I have plenty of poor family who live in rural areas. I guess we're making the assumption here that the low crime rate in rural areas is because there aren't any black people there?

 

[Gameface]

https://kff.org/other/state-indicator/poverty-rate-by-raceethnicity/

Wait? What are you saying here. That data clearly shows that Hispanics and blacks make up the majority of people in poverty by a pretty big margin.

Maybe you were agreeing with me and I took it the wrong way? Maybe I'm misreading the data.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Saw a video by O'Reilly (yes, that one. Relax) where he talks about the black on black crime. The problem, as he sees it, behind that and the causes of that problem. Talks about the destruction of the black fmaily, high unwed birthrate, glorification thru hiphop and rap of the street life. Interesting to watch. Even more interesting have been the responses. They do not address the points O'Reilly brings up (right or wrong) but attack him and question how he is qualified to speak on the black community.

The whole blaming it on hip-hop thing is nonsense. This **** was going on before black people started rapping.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

And I understand the whole having a gun thing to protect you and your home, but who the **** takes it out and patrols their neighborhood like some kind of wanna-be cop? That is why somebody died. Worst case if he doesn't have a gun on him is that one of them gets their *** beat. If you want to patrol your neighborhood and ask the sketchy looking black what he is doing, do it from your car like a smart person who is scared of black people.

The whole thing that annoys me about this thing is that black people are crying about injustice like Zimmerman should get the death penalty, and white people are crying like Zimmerman did nothing wrong. Zimmerman is a monster tard for even being in that situation. Impossible to know all the details that caused the confrontation when you only have two people there and one of them is dead. I would have given Zimmerman some years in jail just for being a dumbass.

 

[Gameface]

And I understand the whole having a gun thing to protect you and your home, but who the **** takes it out and patrols their neighborhood like some kind of wanna-be cop? That is why somebody died. Worst case if he doesn't have a gun on him is that one of them gets their *** beat. If you want to patrol your neighborhood and ask the sketchy looking black what he is doing, do it from your car like a smart person who is scared of black people.

The whole thing that annoys me about this thing is that black people are crying about injustice like Zimmerman should get the death penalty, and white people are crying like Zimmerman did nothing wrong. Zimmerman is a monster tard for even being in that situation. Impossible to know all the details that caused the confrontation when you only have two people there and one of them is dead. I would have given Zimmerman some years in jail just for being a dumbass.

There are many many people who have a concealed carry permit and who carry at all times. It's not some weird thing Zimmerman did. Had he not there is a possibility he would have been severely injured or killed, assuming you believe his side of the story of course. The jury did.

 

[Stoked]

The whole blaming it on hip-hop thing is nonsense. This **** was going on before black people started rapping.

Yes it was but now that life style is idolized. I think it is a valid criticism.

 

[Stoked]

I wouldn't counter meaningless nonsense with additional meaningless nonsense.

I see what O'reilly said as a much more meaningful and honest attempt to get to the root causes than anything that is being said by his opposition. I get the point you are making and it is a legit one.

 

[franklin]

Blindly throwing money at education is not a serious attemp to fix it.

O'reilly makes a good point about stopping the glorification of that life style. I am fine with trying something like the business subsidy you are talking about.

I get what he's saying because he doesn't understand cultural dynamics. It's a sideshow that distracts from discussing the issue in any meaningful way. Counterproductive traits are glorified in poor areas all across the world. Get some jobs, get rid of poor, get rid of glorifying bad traits. Affluence has a nice way of stamping out some of these things.

O'Reilly and the self-righteous right want to work in reverse hacking at leaves instead of roots.

 

[Stoked]

I get what he's saying because he doesn't understand cultural dynamics. It's a sideshow that distracts from discussing the issue in any meaningful way. Counterproductive traits are glorified in poor areas all across the world. Get some jobs, get rid of poor, get rid of glorifying bad traits. Affluence has a nice way of stamping out some of these things.

O'Reilly and the self-righteous right want to work in reverse hacking at leaves instead of roots.

You do that by being qualified to have those better jobs

And that is fine. But again, I see it as starting a long, long overdue debate in an attempt to shed light on the problem. What I want to see from the left is not an attack on O'Reilly or the "religious right". Rather a counter arguement of where the true problem, in their eyes, is and how to fix it. But that is not what I have seen. All I have seen is attacks on O'Reilly for saying anything.

Pathetic.

 

[franklin]

You do that by being qualified to have those better jobs

And that is fine. But again, I see it as starting a long, long overdue debate in an attempt to shed light on the problem. What I want to see from the left is not an attack on O'Reilly or the "religious right". Rather a counter arguement of where the true problem, in their eyes, is and how to fix it. But that is not what I have seen. All I have seen is attacks on O'Reilly for saying anything.

Pathetic.

Protecting self righteousness that's making the problem worse is odd.

 

[MoreFeasts]

There are many many people who have a concealed carry permit and who carry at all times. It's not some weird thing Zimmerman did. Had he not there is a possibility he would have been severely injured or killed, assuming you believe his side of the story of course. The jury did.

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.