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Am I racist?

dalamon said:
No-- but I'm curious what your point is regarding this.



"Most Indians I know" is not a great argument. Every scholar/political leader of Indigenous origin has a problem with terms Indian, *****, and Redskin. Every Indigenous student I have met in the University term deplores these terms. Every single one.



Re-read this thread.



What a ****ing terrible example. Embarrassing.



What's this ideology that I'm using that isn't realistic? I'm curious. And I'm curious as to why you think what I'm saying fits into said ideology. Go on. I got time.
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You're simply wrong about the word Indian. It is very commonly used within the Native American community. I've only heard white liberals say that the term is offensive.

https://web.archive.org/web/2007080...ies/highlights/2006/bismarck/fts_hour3_4.html

Edit: I'm not saying that only liberals say it. But that it is a liberal cause, and not strongly a Native American one.
 
Some things are better left unsaid Beer... There are Mexicans and Mexicans, same way there are Americans and Americans. Next time you try to sell something to a Mexican hit me up, I know what **** he'll be talking about if he's one that wants to pull your leg... I've surprised a few by talking to them in perfect Spanish all of a sudden. I don't look Spanish, and I definitely don't look Mexican.
 
Siro said:
I can't imagine a Native American not finding the term Red Skin offensive. It's pretty much a racial slur.
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****** is a racial slur right? I don't get offended by it
 
Siro said:
You're simply wrong about the word Indian. It is very commonly used within the Native American community. I've only heard white liberals say that the term is offensive.

https://web.archive.org/web/2007080...ies/highlights/2006/bismarck/fts_hour3_4.html
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a) You're simply wrong in saying that only white liberals have a problem with it.
b) it's commonly used because the term is used commonly in the Canadian and American constitutions surrounding the status of Indigenous Peoples
c) what a scholarly source you've selected

Edit: I'm not saying that only liberals say it. But that it is a liberal cause, and not strongly a Native American one.
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I have yet to meet any Native American university student, scholar, or writer who prefers Canadian Indian to being known as Indigenous.

I'm also curious as to how this being a 'liberal cause' invalidates arguments against the term Canadian/American Indian.
 
fishonjazz said:
Aren't some stereotypes positive in nature though?

So why do the powerful create positive stereotypes about those that they wish to dominate?
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Anyone want to answer this question or make a comment about the existence of positive stereotypes?
 
fishonjazz said:
Anyone want to answer this question or make a comment about the existence of positive stereotypes?
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It's because that discussion came to a pretty interesting conclusion, and you haven't bothered to read it. If you did, you probably wouldn't be asking this question.
 
dalamon said:
It's because that discussion came to a pretty interesting conclusion, and you haven't bothered to read it. If you did, you probably wouldn't be asking this question.
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The discussion of positive stereotypes?

Who has talked about that? Enlighten me
 
dalamon said:
Dude, you just simply do not get it. I'd try, but I know many have before me.
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****** is not a racial slur?
Wonder why it is censored
 
dalamon said:
talk about whether stereotypes are memes, or created with purpose to stigmatize.
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Quote some posts in this thread for me of posters discussing positive stereotypes.
I have read this thread and saw bad asian drivers, cheap jews and dutch people, drunk indians, etc etc
What ones of those are positive to the people they are stereotyping?
 
fishonjazz said:
Quote some posts in this thread for me of posters discussing positive stereotypes.
I have read this thread and saw bad asian drivers, cheap jews and dutch people, drunk indians, etc etc
What ones of those are positive to the people they are stereotyping?
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bro
1) I aint quoting **** for you. Go read it yourself.
2) I said the nature of stereotyping was concluded-- this encompasses positive stereotyping. I'm not gonna walk you through every post.
 
dalamon said:
where did I say ****** wasn't a slur?
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Well someone had said that they can't believe that an Indian would not get offended by the word redskin because it's a racial slur as if it's not possible for a person of the race that the slur is about to not be offended.

I responded by saying that I'm not offended by the word ******, which is a racial slur, and I am in fact a white dude.

So obviously it's possible for people to not be offended by a racial slur
 
Siro said:
You're simply wrong about the word Indian. It is very commonly used within the Native American community. I've only heard white liberals say that the term is offensive.

https://web.archive.org/web/2007080...ies/highlights/2006/bismarck/fts_hour3_4.html

Edit: I'm not saying that only liberals say it. But that it is a liberal cause, and not strongly a Native American one.
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Here's what I've found after 20 seconds on google:
Indian

The term "Indian" refers to the legal identity of a First Nations person who is registered under the Indian Act. The term "Indian" should be used only when referring to a First Nations person with status under the Indian Act, and only within its legal context. Aside from this specific legal context, the term "Indian" in Canada is considered outdated and may be considered offensive due to its complex and often idiosyncratic colonial use in governing identity through this legislation and a myriad of other distinctions (i.e., "treaty" and "non-treaty," etc.). In the United States, however, the term "American Indian" and "Native Indian" are both in current and common usage.

You may also hear some First Nations people refer to themselves as "Indians." While there are many reasons for an individual to self-identify as such, this may be a deliberate act on their part to position and present themselves as someone who is defined by federal legislation.

"Indian Band" is also a legal term under the Indian Act to denote a grouping of status Indians. (For more information on this, see our section on bands.)
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https://indigenousfoundations.arts.ubc.ca/home/identity/terminology.html
 
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